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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #15 on: 03 December 2015, 21:21:45 »

its a NO from me
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #17 on: 03 December 2015, 22:47:36 »

It'll be a different ball game should, god forbid, one of our planes come down and the pilots are made an example of  :'( , would be playing straight into Cameron's hands and justify ground troops going in
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #18 on: 04 December 2015, 11:29:08 »

I'm undecided on this but here's a thought...

We have been targeting ISIS/ISIL/Daesh(sp?) for over a year. All that has changed is we are now perusing them over a line on a map, into another country.

Yes, it does increase the chance for both civilian and military casualties. But let's put one thing to bed, we are not starting to target them. It will make no difference to whether we are a target or not.

And, incidentally, the Germans have just voted in favour of joining the strikes too...
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #19 on: 04 December 2015, 11:37:37 »

I'm undecided on this but here's a thought...

We have been targeting ISIS/ISIL/Daesh(sp?) for over a year. All that has changed is we are now perusing them over a line on a map, into another country.

Yes, it does increase the chance for both civilian and military casualties. But let's put one thing to bed, we are not starting to target them. It will make no difference to whether we are a target or not.

And, incidentally, the Germans have just voted in favour of joining the strikes too...



The German military has said it will supply non combat support LD
That includes stand off elint (electronic intelligence) and 1500 troops in a non combat support role.

After years of cuts, the German military is more oppsed up then ours  >:(
   
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #20 on: 04 December 2015, 11:46:08 »

It's a complex situation, and I don't think any of us, or most of those in the commons the other day, really have enough of a feel for the situation to truly judge what response is best.

Our joining the military action in Syria will likely be a small link in the chain of actions military, diplomatic, economic, cyber and so on that will eventually bring these primitives down. Small links are all anyone can contribute, and it's right that we do our bit.

More important than that, it's a demonstration of solidarity with France and the civilised, democratic world, any member state of which could turn out to be the next victim any day now.
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #21 on: 04 December 2015, 15:15:11 »

I'm undecided on this but here's a thought...

We have been targeting ISIS/ISIL/Daesh(sp?) for over a year. All that has changed is we are now perusing them over a line on a map, into another country.

Yes, it does increase the chance for both civilian and military casualties. But let's put one thing to bed, we are not starting to target them. It will make no difference to whether we are a target or not.

And, incidentally, the Germans have just voted in favour of joining the strikes too...



The German military has said it will supply non combat support LD
That includes stand off elint (electronic intelligence) and 1500 troops in a non combat support role.

After years of cuts, the German military is more oppsed up then ours  >:(
   

And recon flights  ;)

Non-combat or not, they are still combining forces to try and help in the attempt to sort the whole mess out.
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #22 on: 04 December 2015, 18:12:50 »

its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #23 on: 04 December 2015, 18:32:30 »

its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so

I mean NO NO NO
no way should we be bombing them
so we bomb them ,kill innocent people that makes us as bad as them,so they then retaliate and so it goes on.
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #24 on: 04 December 2015, 18:39:31 »

its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so

I mean NO NO NO
no way should we be bombing them
so we bomb them ,kill innocent people that makes us as bad as them,so they then retaliate and so it goes on.
No response then?
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #25 on: 04 December 2015, 18:40:56 »

Not sure why we still call it bombing, TBH.

That expression strikes up images of something that topples out of the bottom of a B52 8 miles up and, with a bit of luck, lands on the right continent.

I suspect the cowards are probably using civilians as a human shield, though, which probably limits us to cutting off their supply chains, infrastructure and training areas by air strike, for this very reason.
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #26 on: 04 December 2015, 20:34:14 »

its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so

I mean NO NO NO
no way should we be bombing them
so we bomb them ,kill innocent people that makes us as bad as them,so they then retaliate and so it goes on.
No response then?

the innocent people we kill are all friends/relatives  of someone
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #27 on: 04 December 2015, 21:07:19 »

It's a dog eat dog world, always has been, always will be... Doing nothing doesn't achieve anything...  Even the Americans figured that one out... (though it took Pearl Harbour for it to sink in as a concept).

Not getting involved would not preclude us from being a target. Believing different is very noble, and very naive.
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #28 on: 05 December 2015, 00:05:14 »

its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so

I mean NO NO NO
no way should we be bombing them
so we bomb them ,kill innocent people that makes us as bad as them,so they then retaliate and so it goes on.

But we were already bombing them, just not in Syria
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Re: RAF given the green light to attack.
« Reply #29 on: 05 December 2015, 11:33:33 »

its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so

I mean NO NO NO
no way should we be bombing them
so we bomb them ,kill innocent people that makes us as bad as them,so they then retaliate and so it goes on.


We haven't "bombed" anybody for about 20 years  :)
The weapons we use are precision guided to within a metre of so minimum.
Brimstone and Paveway 4's  explosive charge is set from the cockpit of whatever it using them so that it kills the target and causes the least amount of harm to anything else.
The ROE for British forces is incredibly tight too.
In fact, our lads cannot fire if their is a risk of casualties to non combatants.

Please don't mistake our lads and lasses for the total gung ho oppswits across the pond who don't know what a hospital looks like or Mad Vlad who is at this moment throwing cluster munitions all over the place

But at the end of the day, the British forces fight and die so that you can live your life in a place were you can make your opinions known without fear of death or mutilation  ;)

I'm sure ISIS will be quite happy to sit down and discuses your concerns  :)
But don't let it slip if your gay because there is a good chance you will get a good kicking and then thrown off the top of a 5 story building, regardless of whether your a dedicated follower of Islam or not  ;)
They will also video the event so your family and friends can all sit down and watch it after prayers  :)
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