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[artsoul_no1]

After a bit of advice

Car has done 94k and has had an MOT advisory on front shocks being weak a few months ago.

Last week I went round a roundabout in the wet and the back end drifted right out. At th etime I assumed I had approached it too fast but now when I take a corner even at lowish speed (more noticeably on a right hand corner) the back feels like its about to kick out.

Any ideas what this is? Is it th eshoc

[artsoul_no1]

Sorry, went too soon . here is the full post

After a bit of advice

Car has done 94k and has had an MOT advisory on front shocks being weak a few months ago.

Last week I went round a roundabout in the wet and the back end drifted right out. At the time I assumed I had approached it too fast but now when I take a corner even at lowish speed (more noticeably on a right hand corner) the back feels like its about to kick out even though it doesn't. It feels like the car has oversteered but it hasn;t

Any ideas what this is? Is it the shocks or wishbones? Car runs pretty straight and doesn't feel like it's wandering.

Thanks

Dave

[biggriffin]

Crap tyres, or rear is steering,could even be snapped spring, rear do-nuts, or just turning in to fast and applied loud pedal bit quick, resulting in arse out.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Concur with the above, I'll add worth having geometry checked, many/most places will do a free check for you. 

[Kevin Wood]

Feels like it's about to kick out or actually does?

Mine had an episode of this a couple of years back. Turned out to be the rear bushes on the front wishbones. Felt for all the world like it was about to swap ends whenever you turned in in a particular direction, but if you kept your nerve it never would.

I find the Omega very rarely oversteers without much provocation (on sensible tyres), so if it's actually stepping out, something's wrong at the back end IMHO.

[artsoul_no1]

It eels like it's when you are on the limit just before it is going to slide, its even at low speed just feels like it is rolling into the corner but it doesnt actually slide.

Tyres are okay and at correct pressure it has kind of happened overnight.

 

[Kevin Wood]

I'd certainly check the front wishbone bushes. They don't last long any way, and the symptoms do sound familiar.

[artsoul_no1]

Thanks for all the replies.

Meant to say also when turning full lock to get reverse off the drive the wheels seem "notchy" as I turn the wheel to straighten up, like its on a ratchet if that makes sense.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Feels wishbone-y now you say that. Like that same feeling you get with a rubbery gearchange?

[artsoul_no1]

I'm a lazy sod so only have 2 pedals so not sure what you mean by a rubbery gear change

Knowing my luck it'll be the front, the back and everything in between that has given up.

I'm getting it on a ramp next week so will hopefully know more then, just wanted aheads up of where to start looking

Cheers

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Haha, well, never owned a manual, so know where you're coming from. 

You need to get in with a long bar and start prying the wishbone, looking for excess movement, of course what's 'excess movement'? Well, how long piece of string etc.. sadly. In fact often stuffed bushes are apparent when you get them off the car and look at them in broad daylight, when installed there's just not much to see.  If you've not got any evidence of the wishbones being done any time recent, then really worth a change.

I'll vote build your own all day long, it's potentially cheaper, and definitely better quality, but not quicker. (ideally required two spare wishbones to strip down and rebuild.) But opinion varies. 

[TheBoy]

check rear springs as well, I've had similar with broken springs

[artsoul_no1]

Looks like it's o/s rear spring. Noticed car was low on one side when I came home.

Just been under and counted the coils and the low side has less coils than the other side. Was convinced it was front suspension never thought to look at the rear. 

Bit pissed off because they are 6 months old and Sachs so was expecting better. Got them from ECP, anyone know the warranty on this sort of thing.

[05omegav6]

Probably depends who fitted them

[artsoul_no1]

It wasn't me as it was done when it had a broken spring at last MOT and had both changed by a garage. Guess there's not much comeback on either ECP or the garage. It was checked for the MOT (a different garage) and passed so no reason to suspect it wasn't on correct and had driven okay since.

Looks like I'll be buying a new Spring and finding someone who definitely knows how to fit them