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JamesV6CDX

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BMW E39 nasty noise
« on: 18 January 2016, 15:02:49 »

Recently my 530d has been making a nasty noise upon startup. It only does it 50% of the time and only when you STOP cranking eg when the engine starts and you stop turning the key


To make it clearer to hear on this video I stopped the engine from firing

What do you make of this noise?

http://youtu.be/6t9CdEo5rzo
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #1 on: 18 January 2016, 15:21:35 »

Sounds like either starter motor slow to disengage or drive plate issue if auto ???,may be neither :-\
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #2 on: 18 January 2016, 15:57:05 »

Sounds like either starter motor slow to disengage or drive plate issue if auto ???,may be neither :-\

Drive plate crossed my mind but there is no noise when running or stopping the engine or going between drive and reverse etc

Thinking starter motor ?
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #3 on: 18 January 2016, 16:10:47 »

Starter. Can't think of anything else it could be.
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #4 on: 18 January 2016, 16:19:38 »

Sounds like the pinion clutch slipping as the engine catches, probably because the starter is not retracting the pinion overly quickly (hopefully it is retracting it and its not staying engaged)

Seems pretty common, both the ones we had here did it.
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #5 on: 18 January 2016, 16:27:27 »

Sounds like the pinion clutch slipping as the engine catches, probably because the starter is not retracting the pinion overly quickly (hopefully it is retracting it and its not staying engaged)

Seems pretty common, both the ones we had here did it.
We used to call it the bendix, don't know about now.
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #6 on: 18 January 2016, 16:31:28 »


Spring is usually knackered.
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #7 on: 18 January 2016, 16:39:34 »

Mr. Stemo, I could be wrong but I don't think it is done that way any more, but I am deffo old enough to remember the mBendix and its foibles!
On my Austin A30, it often uset to spin the pinion but not engage in the ring gear, due to sh-you-know-what on the shaft; the technical cure wat to take the jack handle and a hammer and give the shaft the benefit of yout anger.......that pre-dates Basil Fawlty!

Ron.
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #8 on: 18 January 2016, 16:41:23 »

The noise is brief when the engine catches and doesn't remain

Is it likely to damage the teeth on the flywheel?
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #9 on: 18 January 2016, 16:52:17 »

No idea , but bound to cost a few Bob..
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #10 on: 18 January 2016, 16:52:59 »

Mr. Stemo, I could be wrong but I don't think it is done that way any more, but I am deffo old enough to remember the mBendix and its foibles!
On my Austin A30, it often uset to spin the pinion but not engage in the ring gear, due to sh-you-know-what on the shaft; the technical cure wat to take the jack handle and a hammer and give the shaft the benefit of yout anger.......that pre-dates Basil Fawlty!

Ron.
You're probably right, Ron. Some new fangled pre-engage system now....probably. :(
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #11 on: 18 January 2016, 16:55:01 »

The noise is brief when the engine catches and doesn't remain

Is it likely to damage the teeth on the flywheel?
When it eventually decides it doesn't want to release at all, the noise, smoke and bits of starter will definitely make you wish you'd changed it sooner. ;D
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #12 on: 18 January 2016, 16:56:27 »

But they probably have a clutch or something now....spoilsports. :(
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #13 on: 18 January 2016, 16:57:38 »

The noise is brief when the engine catches and doesn't remain

Is it likely to damage the teeth on the flywheel?

Unlikely, the Bendix setups used to as they basically crashed the Bendix into the ring gear where as the modern pre-engaged starter is much easier on the ring gear because it engages before applying motor power..



What its doing to the 'over run' clutch is anyone's guess!
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Re: BMW E39 nasty noise
« Reply #14 on: 18 January 2016, 17:32:31 »

Mr. Stemo, I could be wrong but I don't think it is done that way any more, but I am deffo old enough to remember the mBendix and its foibles!
On my Austin A30, it often uset to spin the pinion but not engage in the ring gear, due to sh-you-know-what on the shaft; the technical cure wat to take the jack handle and a hammer and give the shaft the benefit of yout anger.......that pre-dates Basil Fawlty!

Ron.

Been there, done it, always cured it. Or maybe its just our A30's like being assaulted ;D

To me James, it sounds like the £1 coin dropping into the reject tray because it won't start !!!!
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