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Re: Been offered an MG Zr 1.4
« Reply #30 on: 21 January 2016, 20:33:00 »

What's the labour time likely to be :-\ is two days diy realistic?

I can have the head off a front wheel drive K series in less than an hour,going back together takes longer as liner heights etc need careful checking,the multi layer steel gasket isn't the life saver everyone thought it was and the latest payen BW750 blue elastomer gasket is much more tolerant of low liner height, if the head has got hot its also worth using a head saver shim which is glued to the head with weldseal to stop the gasket wearing rings in the now softer head material.
Its pretty good if done properly, but many garages just use it as is, not with the ladder and different bolts.
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« Reply #31 on: 21 January 2016, 20:47:05 »

So should the oil rail be replaced automatically too :-\
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Re: Been offered an MG Zr 1.4
« Reply #32 on: 21 January 2016, 21:24:46 »

What's the labour time likely to be :-\ is two days diy realistic?

I can have the head off a front wheel drive K series in less than an hour,going back together takes longer as liner heights etc need careful checking,the multi layer steel gasket isn't the life saver everyone thought it was and the latest payen BW750 blue elastomer gasket is much more tolerant of low liner height, if the head has got hot its also worth using a head saver shim which is glued to the head with weldseal to stop the gasket wearing rings in the now softer head material.
Its pretty good if done properly, but many garages just use it as is, not with the ladder and different bolts.

Its low liner heights that the MLS really doesn't like,I used one on my turbo 75 with the ladder and bolts but it wasn't having it( liners were quite low) ,Bw750 and head saver shim and two years on still good :y
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Re: Been offered an MG Zr 1.4
« Reply #33 on: 21 January 2016, 21:27:43 »

What's the labour time likely to be :-\ is two days diy realistic?

I can have the head off a front wheel drive K series in less than an hour,going back together takes longer as liner heights etc need careful checking,the multi layer steel gasket isn't the life saver everyone thought it was and the latest payen BW750 blue elastomer gasket is much more tolerant of low liner height, if the head has got hot its also worth using a head saver shim which is glued to the head with weldseal to stop the gasket wearing rings in the now softer head material.
Its pretty good if done properly, but many garages just use it as is, not with the ladder and different bolts.

Its low liner heights that the MLS really doesn't like,I used one on my turbo 75 with the ladder and bolts but it wasn't having it( liners were quite low) ,Bw750 and head saver shim and two years on still good :y
Did you bother with the oil rail?
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Re: Been offered an MG Zr 1.4
« Reply #34 on: 21 January 2016, 21:35:01 »

What's the labour time likely to be :-\ is two days diy realistic?

I can have the head off a front wheel drive K series in less than an hour,going back together takes longer as liner heights etc need careful checking,the multi layer steel gasket isn't the life saver everyone thought it was and the latest payen BW750 blue elastomer gasket is much more tolerant of low liner height, if the head has got hot its also worth using a head saver shim which is glued to the head with weldseal to stop the gasket wearing rings in the now softer head material.
Its pretty good if done properly, but many garages just use it as is, not with the ladder and different bolts.

Its low liner heights that the MLS really doesn't like,I used one on my turbo 75 with the ladder and bolts but it wasn't having it( liners were quite low) ,Bw750 and head saver shim and two years on still good :y
Did you bother with the oil rail?

you mean the ladder at the bottom that the bolts screw into,if so yes
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« Reply #35 on: 21 January 2016, 21:44:45 »

Ok, so presumably thats a sump off job to remove?

Will get a Haynes before doing, if I agree to do it, so apologies for all the questions... Just want to be sure that I get a definitive list of parts and therefore cost before committing ;)
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« Reply #36 on: 21 January 2016, 22:03:44 »

Ok, so presumably thats a sump off job to remove?

Will get a Haynes before doing, if I agree to do it, so apologies for all the questions... Just want to be sure that I get a definitive list of parts and therefore cost before committing ;)

Yep,easy though :y
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Re: Been offered an MG Zr 1.4
« Reply #37 on: 21 January 2016, 22:07:56 »

TBH, I wouldn't get involved. Too many potential pitfalls with it, especially as the symptoms don't point straight to HG IMHO.

As previously stated, the K Series normally makes it very clear that it has gone ;)
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« Reply #38 on: 21 January 2016, 22:13:18 »

Third party has apparently confirmed HG, but without seeing the car, I wouldn't like to say... Has had gunge in the header tank too.

Chap has been offered a Suzuki of some description for £500, and has been quoted £650 to fix the MG... If it can be fixed for £500 ish, then he can maje an informed decision :-\
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Re: Been offered an MG Zr 1.4
« Reply #39 on: 21 January 2016, 23:32:49 »

Third party has apparently confirmed HG, but without seeing the car, I wouldn't like to say... Has had gunge in the header tank too.

Chap has been offered a Suzuki of some description for £500, and has been quoted £650 to fix the MG... If it can be fixed for £500 ish, then he can maje an informed decision :-\

Your call... But beware that you could end up stripping the whole lot and finding it beyond repair.

I've never seen a k series HG that wasn't pressurising coolant or beyond starting through lack of compression :-\
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« Reply #40 on: 22 January 2016, 00:02:20 »

Good point, be one to do on his drive rather than mine...

Hopefully he will prefer to spend the money on another car... £500 buys alot of Omega :D
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Re: Been offered an MG Zr 1.4
« Reply #41 on: 22 January 2016, 00:08:37 »

It's a silver '04  ::)
Yeah, right. Send it to Andy B for food containers.

our cans are made from better steel than that  ::) ::)
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Re: Been offered an MG Zr 1.4
« Reply #42 on: 22 January 2016, 00:25:28 »

It's a silver '04  ::)
Yeah, right. Send it to Andy B for food containers.

our cans are made from better steel than that ::) ::)
And the dents come free

Note to self....I hate that wine glass swirly thing...Get rid  ;D ;D
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Re: Been offered an MG Zr 1.4
« Reply #43 on: 22 January 2016, 00:29:40 »

if and I mean if the only symptom is  the heater not working then it could well be the saab valve broken (very common problem) located at the back of the engine basicley when it fails the coolant flows straight through and by passes the heater system
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« Reply #44 on: 22 January 2016, 17:10:07 »

Discussing options and the lottery thereof, he said he has been offered £150 for it... Told him to bite the blokes arm off ::)
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