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Omena

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Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« on: 18 February 2016, 21:04:35 »

I have now normal 800rpm and car works fine but clutch feeling is little bit bad.  I use 95oct gasoline and it gives huhe differense between 98.

When choke is on and about 1000rpm its nice to use but 800 is too low because it lowers when i lift clutch.

Clutch is pretty new.


"My Naff Code Reader"/vauxcom didnt allowed change that speed when i tried.
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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #1 on: 18 February 2016, 21:15:34 »

Which engine do you have?
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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #2 on: 18 February 2016, 21:37:59 »

Guessing at 800RPM it's a 2.2. That is the correct idle speed.

If a V6 then it's idling too fast ;)
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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #3 on: 18 February 2016, 23:04:22 »

My Desmond and my old 2.0l pfl both tick(ed) over @ 600 rpm :o
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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #4 on: 19 February 2016, 00:08:20 »

Guessing at 800RPM it's a 2.2. That is the correct idle speed.

If a V6 then it's idling too fast ;)

way way too fast  ;)
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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #5 on: 19 February 2016, 00:41:56 »

i see your engine is a 2.2. 

migs are heavy cars -  swmbo wouldn't drive my old manual 2.5 because she kept stalling it, you have to rev a bit when starting off.  i imagine even more important on a 2.2.

most people here either have autos or starting off has become second nature so they no longer notice it.
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« Reply #6 on: 19 February 2016, 06:55:57 »

Yes its 2.2 petrol.

Difficult to post here because of car color/fruit question....

Is tech2 only way modife idle?  Revving is hard because car fights easily then and takeoffs became rough.


Problem is only with 95oct fuel but i cant use 98 like i said.



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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #7 on: 19 February 2016, 19:15:48 »

The problem isn't the idle speed, that is as it should be. It's either a clutch fault, a different fault or the driver/gearbox interface.

Oh... And the questions that you refer to will stop very soon
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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #8 on: 19 February 2016, 19:54:59 »

i see your engine is a 2.2. 

migs are heavy cars -  swmbo wouldn't drive my old manual 2.5 because she kept stalling it, you have to rev a bit when starting off.  i imagine even more important on a 2.2.

most people here either have autos or starting off has become second nature so they no longer notice it.
Does the 2.2 have an idle control valve (IAC) or is it drive by wire (DBW).

When I had a manual 2.5 V6 I got really fed up with how the IAC would interfere when I was trying to pull away smoothly by cutting the revs just as was feeding the clutch in (causing it to stall). Pull away smartly and it never stalled.
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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #9 on: 19 February 2016, 20:38:09 »

i see your engine is a 2.2. 

migs are heavy cars -  swmbo wouldn't drive my old manual 2.5 because she kept stalling it, you have to rev a bit when starting off.  i imagine even more important on a 2.2.

most people here either have autos or starting off has become second nature so they no longer notice it.
Does the 2.2 have an idle control valve (IAC) or is it drive by wire (DBW).

When I had a manual 2.5 V6 I got really fed up with how the IAC would interfere when I was trying to pull away smoothly by cutting the revs just as was feeding the clutch in (causing it to stall). Pull away smartly and it never stalled.

2.2 is DBW ;)
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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #10 on: 19 February 2016, 21:17:50 »

Thought the early ones were cabled :-\
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« Reply #11 on: 19 February 2016, 22:20:22 »

My buddy has same problem too and he has 100% good condition.  It wont stall and it will go smooth if i release clutch by time.

Faster release gives harsh feelings but only 95oct no 98. Ive read that engine likes 98 and lower torque is way different with it.  And i regonize same when i drived 98.



And with choke 1000rpm it goes very nice with 95. I just need raise it there someway.

My friends omega does same than yours i think: 800rpm and when you left with only clutch, idle drops in 500-600rpm and raises again if you lift pedal with care.
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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #12 on: 19 February 2016, 23:36:30 »

Most unleaded in the UK is 95 RON and the 2.2 is fine. I say again...

The problem isn't the idle speed, that is as it should be. It's either a clutch fault, a different fault or the driver/gearbox interface.

Thought the early ones were cabled :-\

Nope... Came in at the same time as the 2.6/3.2. All are DBW :y
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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #13 on: 20 February 2016, 00:46:19 »

What are the differences between X22SE and Y22SE then :-\
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Re: Idle speed, how i can modife it?
« Reply #14 on: 20 February 2016, 08:25:39 »

What are the differences between X22SE and Y22SE then :-\

One wasn't fitted to the Omega AFAIK ;) Isn't one the chain driven lump in the Vectra?

Never encountered a cable 2.2 in an Omega. I could be wrong... We all know there are oddities in the range
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