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[ronnyd]

The issue as I see it is that a vast number of voters will be deciding on which way to vote by what is relevant to their needs/views etc and not what is best for Britian. My mate told me last night that he is voting "out" just to get rid of Scotland. That's a pretty narrow reason but others with other singular motives will do the same. Also how many will really bother to research the pros and cons before voting? Will it then be as it was in the Irish Republic with their referendum that they had to keep voting until they came up with the "right" decision? Food for thought.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I spoke to someone who said they will vote to remain because they don't trust the current govt. on the NHS/ pensions/ H&S law etc. 
The current Govt can be kicked out by us in 4 years time, and it always has, always will swing back and forth between Tory / Labour.
This vote is about the future of the UK for evermore. 

[STEMO]

I spoke to someone who said they will vote to remain because they don't trust the current govt. on the NHS/ pensions/ H&S law etc. 
The current Govt can be kicked out by us in 4 years time, and it always has, always will swing back and forth between Tory / Labour.
This vote is about the future of the UK for evermore. 

It won't swing while Corbyn is in charge.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Probably not, but its still short term being compared to forever. 

[Gaffers]

where's the maybe button?

- I work for a French-based small company and I have no idea how an out vote will affect us both jurisdictionally and cost-wise.
- Could put my job and future at risk  (although it could force the creation of an entirely different UK entity of which I would be in sole charge, which would be to my advantage)
- Economically it would mean a period of adjustment and pain but in the long run we would be just as well off as if we had left.
- In order to export to the EU we would more than likely have to comply with their rules and still pay for the privilege.  I doubt for a second that they will give us the same arrangements that China has.  We are just not big enough.
- Dont like the current process for passing legislation (no real vote or voice in the European parliament where there is a lot of collusion to get things done in the face of protest from smaller bodies)
- (my feeling) No real way of holding MEPs to account and very little transparency in their decision (all while appearing to be thoroughly transparent)
- If we stayed in then we would have more say than as an outsider
- More difficult to share military infrastructure, which is an issue until our aircraft carriers are built.
- No confidence that concessions given will not be slowly eroded as per the deal made int he 70's when we voted for the EEC.

I am still not decided.  While Cameron has done well to get what he has from the EU, I am not 100% sure that is enough to sway me.

Still sat on the fence but I am very glad that we are getting a say rather than our elected representatives making a mockery of our wishes and just rolling over for Brussels.

[05omegav6]

The Scots would be forced to stay in as the oil would leave, along with the islands that supply it... ok, to say that the islands would leave is misleading, where we go, they will most likely follow.

Re military provision, presumably we will remain in Nato

I suspect migration will be the deciding factor, as the whole of mainland Europe, from Turkey to France is geared up to getting people from the eastern Med to the channel as efficiently as possible.

It will be close, but I suspect we will leave. Worst case, it all goes horribly wrong and we end up a US satellite... but I think in fact we will do ok, afterall our economy has recovered better than others and the Commonwealth has alot to offer as well.

All we need now is a four month media blackout

[STEMO]

where's the maybe button?

There's no maybe button cause there won't be on the ballot paper. Neither will there be any space to write a short novel, that's why I asked for just a vote. Personal reasons for staying/leaving are all very interesting but not really pertinent. I will vote leave even if every other person in the country votes to stay.

[Shackeng]

I am undecided, and want to hear all the arguments before committing.

[Entwood]

To my simple brain the most interesting aspect of all the media who-ha in the uk, all of whom are saying that Cameron failed to get anything substantive (likely they are trying to influence the decision to a "leave" one when they should be neutral - note how much airtime Farage is getting), is the actual reaction from the press in other countries

http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/the-brits-have-freed-the-eu-from-the-yoke-of-political-union-foreign-press-reactions-to-uk-eu-deal/

I wonder why the BBC/ITV/etc etc are not reporting this viewpoint   but then ... they have their own agenda and now "make" the news instead of reporting it, and anything they can do that is "anti-Cameron" appears to be acceptable

[Webby the Bear]

I've voted to leave. And will do in the referendum.

My opinion is that if you have twenty summat countries all with individual interests, how can you possibly have harmony.

Whilst I voted for Mr Cameron and I stand by that vote as I believe overall he's done a good job, I genuinely can't see where he's going with this. I've heard zero 'we need to stay in for reaso x, y and z'. So unless I hear something to that affect that I agree with ill be voting out.

Why can't we be on our own as we have been for centuries prior to 1970?

Just my opinion. I'm sure others have theirs 😀

[Varche]

The Scots would be forced to stay in as the oil would leave, along with the islands that supply it... ok, to say that the islands would leave is misleading, where we go, they will most likely follow.

Re military provision, presumably we will remain in Nato

I suspect migration will be the deciding factor, as the whole of mainland Europe, from Turkey to France is geared up to getting people from the eastern Med to the channel as efficiently as possible.

It will be close, but I suspect we will leave. Worst case, it all goes horribly wrong and we end up a US satellite... but I think in fact we will do ok, afterall our economy has recovered better than others and the Commonwealth has alot to offer as well.

All we need now is a four month media blackout

That is patently untrue if by channel you mean the English Channel. It is true that the EU borders are totally porous but Britain hasn't received 100,000' of the mostly Syrian migrants? There aren't 100,000's waiting at Calais. Many EU countries have taken huge numbers of migrants unlike Britain (and Spain). Some countries have closed their borders or built fences. Don't get me wrong, I think the EU has failed awfully to control the situation. That in itself is a reflection of how well Brussells works. About as well as a person would tied to a dead donkey and certainly as fast. I find our approach to migration hypocritical. Britain is quite happy to fill vast numbers of jobs that are generally low paid(care, NHS, burger flippers etc)  with economic migrants but then cry there are too many. Maybe there are too many of the wrong type?

Interesting link Entwood to how others in Europe feel. I ask the man in the street here and they are clueless to the issues. They are more interested in the fact that there is a stalemate in forming a new Spanish government.

If the outcome for the EU is a two tier affair with a nucleus going for ever closer union then so be it. I personally think that is so wrong on so many levels. Lets trade and be European but control our own affairs.

Incidentally expat forums are full of threads hundreds of pages long with speculation that an out vote would be bad for the expat. e.g pensions could be frozen as they are for people who went to live in a Commonwealth country. I shall be voting for future generations and not for my own well being.

[STEMO]

Ex pats are foreigners, just not ones that live here. If I were Spanish or French, I would be glad to see the back of them.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Boris has now joined the leave campaign. Cameron will be sh1tting bricks.

[Varche]

  Yes they ravish our women and drink all our beer.

But what of Boris;s future in the event of a No vote? Cameron doesn't care either way as he wisely already said he isn't standing again.

[ted_one]

£55 million squid a day ....just to be in the club,think we need a check up from the neck up....got to be a big NO! from me