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[Lazydocker]

Surprised not to see a thread about this yet!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35869254

My thoughts go out to all who have been caught up in this terrible event!

What is happening with our world?

[henryd]

Surprised not to see a thread about this yet!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35869254

My thoughts go out to all who have been caught up in this terrible event!

What is happening with our world?

Indeed,I wonder what my kids are growing up to face with all this shit going on

[tigers_gonads]

Surprised not to see a thread about this yet!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35869254

My thoughts go out to all who have been caught up in this terrible event!

What is happening with our world?

Well that's open borders for you 

It is a sad fact that many of those involved in terror, both at home and abroad, are locally born and with a grudge against the society they feel hasn't "welcomed" them or "respected" them or there religious faith.
Shame these bastards didn't come to the west to integrate into our society and way of life.

This is coming to a city near you in the future and there is Sweet F All you can do about it 

[Varche]

terrible. At least 26 dead.

I would imagine security will be stepped up everywhere for the Easter rush.

I wonder if there ought to be a new offence on the statute books to enable police to detain jihadists and search their property(for bomb making kit, weapons etc). We live in very different times to even twenty years ago.

On a separate note, I am surprised that Apple are not co operating with helping unlock a mobile phone that is crucial to an investigation. Surely they could set up a top level process - something like extradition so that the worthy cases each year can be done.

[aaronjb]

On a separate note, I am surprised that Apple are not co operating with helping unlock a mobile phone that is crucial to an investigation. Surely they could set up a top level process - something like extradition so that the worthy cases each year can be done.

No. Apple are refusing to compromise the security of everyone globally by introducing a backdoor that could be used remotely, at will, by anyone who has the key - and don't for a second believe that will just be the FBI. It will be the FBI, NSA, CIA, GCHQ, Mossad oh and anyone who reverse engineers the backdoor for malicious financial gain; organised crime is big business and they already make millions (likely billions) per year from digital fraud, a nice easy back door for them to use to steal all of your personal information would be worth a literal fortune to them.

You could certainly kiss goodbye to your identity and any semblance of personal data security if you carried an iOS device.

http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/17/why-apple-is-fighting-not-to-unlock-iphones-for-the-government/

Also:

I wonder if there ought to be a new offence on the statute books to enable police to detain jihadists and search their property(for bomb making kit, weapons etc). We live in very different times to even twenty years ago.

You want people arrested and detained on suspicion? "He looks dodgy, arrest him and search all his stuff!"

Hello, Orwell.

[tigers_gonads]

On a separate note, I am surprised that Apple are not co operating with helping unlock a mobile phone that is crucial to an investigation. Surely they could set up a top level process - something like extradition so that the worthy cases each year can be done.

No. Apple are refusing to compromise the security of everyone globally by introducing a backdoor that could be used remotely, at will, by anyone who has the key - and don't for a second believe that will just be the FBI. It will be the FBI, NSA, CIA, GCHQ, Mossad oh and anyone who reverse engineers the backdoor for malicious financial gain; organised crime is big business and they already make millions (likely billions) per year from digital fraud, a nice easy back door for them to use to steal all of your personal information would be worth a literal fortune to them.

You could certainly kiss goodbye to your identity and any semblance of personal data security if you carried an iOS device.

http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/17/why-apple-is-fighting-not-to-unlock-iphones-for-the-government/

Also:

I wonder if there ought to be a new offence on the statute books to enable police to detain jihadists and search their property(for bomb making kit, weapons etc). We live in very different times to even twenty years ago.

You want people arrested and detained on suspicion? "He looks dodgy, arrest him and search all his stuff!"

Hello, Orwell.

Some geek in a bunker somewhere cracked the encryption years ago
The problem with using that information gained is that the security services would have to admit how they gained said information in a court of law.
All in my opinion of course 

Ref Orwell .............

The times have changed and peoples attitude to this sort of surveillance needs to change very quickly.
In the past, the enemy wore a uniform and fought using Queensbury Rules against others who wore a uniform.
Now terror being terror, the enemy has decided to terrorise, mutilate and murder the least protected citizens of this world because they are easy targets and due to the nature of the media, give them the most airtime 

A little 1984 is sadly needed if only to protect the innocent   

[Viral_Jim]

You want people arrested and detained on suspicion? "He looks dodgy, arrest him and search all his stuff!"

Hello, Orwell.

Interesting, I believe this already happens , certainly did in guantanamo. Not to mention russia, china and (probably) the UK although we'll likely use some convenient offshore location to do it/

[Varche]

What I was proposing was that going through a very specific channel, Apple would unlock a phone at their premises using their staff maybe a couple of times a year. I agree with everyone that the FBI etc shouldn't be able to do it themselves.

Orwell? Spot on TG "In the past, the enemy wore a uniform and fought using Queensbury Rules against others who wore a uniform". I would add and observed the Geneva Convention. Terrorists do neither. I do not believe that there are many if any new terrorism laws. One area I wish they would look at is citizenship and right to a countries passport. As an aside I wonder how many deaths were averted by the Guantanamo debacle ?

[STEMO]

This couldn't have happened at a better time for Cameron and Osbourne.

Cynical......me?

[Varche]

Meant to add

although it saved taxpayers money on a trial and prison , it is a shame that they shot the guy on Friday as no doubt he knew what was about to happen. By " forcing" him to speak immediately after his arrest, many lives could have been saved. We are of course too civilised to do that.

[STEMO]

Meant to add

although it saved taxpayers money on a trial and prison , it is a shame that they shot the guy on Friday as no doubt he knew what was about to happen. By " forcing" him to speak immediately after his arrest, many lives could have been saved. We are of course too civilised to do that.

Which guy?

[Varche]

Belgian police said Samir Bouzid was "most probably" Mohamed Belkaid. He was killed by a police sniper in a raid on a flat outside Brussels on 15 March.

I got the date wrong. Tuesday 15th.

[STEMO]

Sorry, I thought you were talking about the guy they shot in the leg, Abdesalam.

[Steve B]

This couldn't have happened at a better time for Cameron and Osbourne.

Cynical......me?

Yes it takes the spot light off them pair.

[pscocoa]

The father of a friend of mine was killed and her mother injured in the airport blast today. My friend had left for the US just before and will now be coming back from US. Don't know what to say.

We were both in Paris for business last week - I feel so sad