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[Andy B]

This is all a bit much, I only did 36 in a 30. 

Agreed ..... 

[Andy B]

Stopping distance at 36=100'! Which also surprised me when at 30 it is 45'

Is this from the Highway code? 

[BazaJT]

I don't know whether that stopping distance is part of the highway code,but it is known that braking to a stop is not a linear progression.A test some time ago using a police vehicle measured the stopping distance[emergency braking]at 70mph and again at 100mph and at the time the car braking from 100 passed the point it had stopped at from 70 it was still doing 70!

[2boxerdogs]

And those results are probably with a well maintained vehicle with excellent tyres etc, unlike many out there.

[TheBoy]

Stopping distance at 36=100'! Which also surprised me when at 30 it is 45'

In a 1950s Anglia.....

[Nick W]

Stopping distance at 36=100'! Which also surprised me when at 30 it is 45'

In a 1950s Anglia.....

The stopping distances are deliberately kept out of date to scare people into driving slower. This is necessary because keeping a modern car to 30mph(which is a justifiable limit in town) requires the driver to concentrate on their driving. And that seems to be a very low priority.

[Andy B]

Stopping distance at 36=100'! Which also surprised me when at 30 it is 45'

In a 1950s Anglia.....

The stopping distances are deliberately kept out of date to scare people into driving slower. This is necessary because keeping a modern car to 30mph(which is a justifiable limit in town) requires the driver to concentrate on their driving. And that seems to be a very low priority.

I tried to find the Top Gear clip when they compared stopping distances with a high performace saloon car, sports car & an Anglia  ...... couldn't find it though 

[TheBoy]

Stopping distance at 36=100'! Which also surprised me when at 30 it is 45'

In a 1950s Anglia.....

The stopping distances are deliberately kept out of date to scare people into driving slower. This is necessary because keeping a modern car to 30mph(which is a justifiable limit in town) requires the driver to concentrate on their driving. And that seems to be a very low priority.

I know an Omega has no trouble stopping from a ton at the last of the III/II/I markers.

[Nick W]

Stopping distance at 36=100'! Which also surprised me when at 30 it is 45'

In a 1950s Anglia.....

The stopping distances are deliberately kept out of date to scare people into driving slower. This is necessary because keeping a modern car to 30mph(which is a justifiable limit in town) requires the driver to concentrate on their driving. And that seems to be a very low priority.

I know an Omega has no trouble stopping from a ton at the last of the III/II/I markers.

Nor did the '86 1600 Cavalier that I learnt to drive in 28years ago.

[STEMO]

Stopping distance at 36=100'! Which also surprised me when at 30 it is 45'

In a 1950s Anglia.....

The stopping distances are deliberately kept out of date to scare people into driving slower. This is necessary because keeping a modern car to 30mph(which is a justifiable limit in town) requires the driver to concentrate on their driving. And that seems to be a very low priority.

They did tell us on the course that these distances were set in 1947 but said that, even though the braking distance had decreased, the overall stopping distance was left the same because concentration levels were compromised by the amount of tech found in modern cars. So thinking distance and reaction distance increased by the same amount that braking distance decreased.

Ok? 

[tigers_gonads]

I don't know whether that stopping distance is part of the highway code,but it is known that braking to a stop is not a linear progression.A test some time ago using a police vehicle measured the stopping distance[emergency braking]at 70mph and again at 100mph and at the time the car braking from 100 passed the point it had stopped at from 70 it was still doing 70!

That info was past on to me during part 2 by a advanced driving instructor at my last speeding seminar about 12 years ago.
As for the copper in part 1, lets just say thank fook that not all coppers are like that 
To be fair to the ADI, he didn't patronise anybody and spoke a lot of sense, and probably made a difference to most peoples driving attitude in there
Agree that a visit and some graphic pictures from some of the lads and lasses that work for the ambulance service would also work wonders.

As for speed limits, there is a place and a time to get your boot down.
Problem is, people have had all common sense sucked out of them in all walks of life by the pc brigade over 2 or 3 generations.
When I was a young lad driving, I had my old man who would quite happily give me a slap if he caught me driving like a t wat 
Not any more, its not allowed   

[Nick W]

Stopping distance at 36=100'! Which also surprised me when at 30 it is 45'

In a 1950s Anglia.....

The stopping distances are deliberately kept out of date to scare people into driving slower. This is necessary because keeping a modern car to 30mph(which is a justifiable limit in town) requires the driver to concentrate on their driving. And that seems to be a very low priority.

They did tell us on the course that these distances were set in 1947 but said that, even though the braking distance had decreased, the overall stopping distance was left the same because concentration levels were compromised by the amount of tech found in modern cars. So thinking distance and reaction distance increased by the same amount that braking distance decreased.

Ok? 

No, it's rubbish. In 1947 fully hydraulic brakes were a rarity, everything used drums and cross-ply tyres, suspension systems were very crude, and the road surfaces were poorer. These are the reasons why changing down through the gearbox whilst slowing was developed, because for many cars it was more effective than the brakes were. Some of the 'distracting' tech does actually improve things for the driver: lights, wipers, heaters, indicators, mirrors, I could go on.

[2boxerdogs]

I think the fact there are  less Police visible & the reliance on cameras (which most drivers know where they are located ) doesn't help matters . There are certain stretches of road in my local area that I avoid at weekends & public holidays as the driving standards just seem to plummet at these times.  I like to take pride in my driving abilities but sometimes the actions of others is unbelievable.

[Kevin Wood]

29=safe. 31=mortal danger. Let's all drive by numbers instead of paying attention to what we're doing. Oh, hang on! There goes my mobile phone...

[Andy B]

29=safe. 31=mortal danger. Let's all drive by numbers instead of paying attention to what we're doing. Oh, hang on! There goes my mobile phone...