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[terry paget]

Why bother, Terry? Maybe as a personal challenge, but you're not going to save a fortune by the time you've bought all the kit.

Of course you're right, but I am a miser and I do run 6 Omegas so tyres are quite an expense, especially when I run them underinflated. It came up because I had a puncture on my 41 year old Westwood ride on mower. I got the cover off after a struggle, bought a new tube and put it back on tonight with the tools here depicted. My other mower is a 51 year old Mountfield Stoic with solid tyres.

[Nick W]

The same tools will fit car and van tyres, but it's a real knack. One that really isn't worth trying to develop. If your cars are setup properly then a set of £50 tyres should last 25,000 miles.

[terry paget]

So I've got the right tools already. I struggled removing the cover, but I used a dash of washing up liquid in a bowl of water. Following your advice I put it back with 50/50 water/washing up liquid, and it slipped on a treat. I agree it's a knack, and MigV6 has it. It would certainly be useful to me. I could reduce my stack of spare wheels and tyres to a stack of wheels for a start.
Please tell me, MigV6. How do you get the tyre off the rim into the well?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Like this Terry, although I use a transit van, as it has plenty of clearance, and also its not mine. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72KmOlSETnQ

[aaronjb]

Ah that well known expression for "just a little more"

[Nick W]

Ah that well known expression for "just a little more"

AKA a blonde one for really fine adjustments.

[terry paget]

Like this Terry, although I use a transit van, as it has plenty of clearance, and also its not mine. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72KmOlSETnQ

Thanks. I used the first method in 1962. It worked, but did not seem worth the effort. I tried again in 2002 with the tools depicted but failed completely.
I like the trolley jack idea, looks worth a try.

[STEMO]

Like this Terry, although I use a transit van, as it has plenty of clearance, and also its not mine. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72KmOlSETnQ

Thanks. I used the first method in 1962. It worked, but did not seem worth the effort. I tried again in 2002 with the tools depicted but failed completely.
I like the trolley jack idea, looks worth a try.

I wouldn't put a trolley jack against the rim of an alloy, as he suggested doing with the steel wheel.

[terry paget]

This trolley jack attempt failed. The tyre tool slid back off the tyre bead. I need a wider curved tool. Any suggestions?

[Nick W]

This trolley jack attempt failed. The tyre tool slid back off the tyre bead. I need a wider curved tool. Any suggestions?

Turning the lever the other way up would help. As would having someone who regularly changes tyres manually show you how to do it. But seriously, is it really worth it? One man I worked with could change 6 truck tyres in 90minutes with no more than a bead breaker and two levers, without even getting dirty. With some instruction I did manage to change one myself, but like plastering it is something that I have no intention of doing again.

You could use a short length of thick-walled 4" angle iron and a club hammer to break the bead.

[terry paget]

I tried the lever other way up, no joy. It might have helped if I had supported the wheel horizontal. I agree, not really worth it, I do it as a challenge, though reading Tunnies's current thread 'So glad I do DIY car work' if there were an easy way to change tyres some members might use it.

[05omegav6]

If you must Terry, then don't oops about...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-Motorbike-Car-Van-Tyre-Bead-Breaker-/180499005935?hash=item2a069441ef:m:mPMSPmJ1kiPfNNDO0I-O6LA

Actually you need to spend twice that to get a car tyre suitable one, but you get the point

[terry paget]

This looks handy, but it's collection only.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Portable-Manual-Car-Tyre-Changer-Wheel-Mount-Breaker-Hand-Machine-/172161232701?hash=item28159bef3d:g:JnwAAOSwgApXB-Ja