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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #15 on: 01 April 2016, 18:42:28 »

Kate, if you already have the tools for safely working under a car and can manage all the grovelling about that this job entails then a £15 flaring tool and £20 of consumables will do the job.

But it is a fiddly time consuming job that is probably best left to someone who has done it before.

Thanks for the advice Nick. :y
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #16 on: 01 April 2016, 18:48:48 »

If you do decide to go ahead and d.i.y. make sure any bends you need to put into pipe are smooth with no kinks,and that once done brakes are thoroughly bled and all air expelled.
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #17 on: 01 April 2016, 20:50:30 »

If you do decide to go ahead and d.i.y. make sure any bends you need to put into pipe are smooth with no kinks,and that once done brakes are thoroughly bled and all air expelled.

Will do. I'm going to do the job next week. :y
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #18 on: 01 April 2016, 21:03:04 »

Good for you girl :y I admire your spirit not being afraid to get stuck in ;)
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #19 on: 01 April 2016, 22:46:19 »

Managed for ages with the cheap brake flaring tools which as long as your doing joint to joint with copper or its mixes is fine.

flaring original steel lines with such tools is near impossible.

the upgrade , which works fantastically but probably not needed is this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sykes-FLAREMASTER-2-Brake-Flaring-Tool-3-16-and-4-75mm-/310202109435?hash=item48397c8dfb
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #20 on: 01 April 2016, 22:56:59 »

Managed for ages with the cheap brake flaring tools which as long as your doing joint to joint with copper or its mixes is fine.

flaring original steel lines with such tools is near impossible.

the upgrade , which works fantastically but probably not needed is this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sykes-FLAREMASTER-2-Brake-Flaring-Tool-3-16-and-4-75mm-/310202109435?hash=item48397c8dfb

That looks excellent but it's a bit expensive.
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #21 on: 01 April 2016, 23:04:01 »

Cheap kit is fine as said, as long as your working with Cupronickel and copper.
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #22 on: 01 April 2016, 23:17:58 »

If you do decide to go ahead and d.i.y. make sure any bends you need to put into pipe are smooth with no kinks,and that once done brakes are thoroughly bled and all air expelled.

Will do. I'm going to do the job next week. :y

 :y

These can come in handy too....... http://www.lasertools.co.uk/product/3483
They can be purchased for less money than this though.
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #23 on: 02 April 2016, 11:12:12 »

You can buy a cheap kit on eGay that has pipe, flarer kit, fittings and benders. Well, you used to be able to. I would seriously recommend having several practice attempts at using the flaring tool before starting on the real pipes ;) :y
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #24 on: 02 April 2016, 13:06:05 »

I have found MOT testers happily fails cars for surface rust on brake pipes. If I then remove the rust with emery cloth and show the tester pipe is sound he will pass it. I have also seen a tester slapping grease on the brake pipes of a mate, then passing it. I now submit cars for test with all metal brake pipes greased. Does anyone know what the tester's manual says about this?
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #25 on: 02 April 2016, 14:19:01 »

If you do decide to go ahead and d.i.y. make sure any bends you need to put into pipe are smooth with no kinks,and that once done brakes are thoroughly bled and all air expelled.

Will do. I'm going to do the job next week. :y

 :y

These can come in handy too....... http://www.lasertools.co.uk/product/3483
They can be purchased for less money than this though.


I had one of those, and found that it only does large radius bends in the middle of a pipe. And you can do those just as easily by bending the pipe around a former that you already own, like a socket, bottle, pipe, post etc.


What you really need for doing neat, safe brake pipe installations is the ability to put really tight bends next to each other, or right at the end of an already formed pipe. That's where this comes into its own:  http://www.automec.co.uk/collections/tools/products/small-pipe-bending-tool-by-oakes A small twist type pipe cutter is also a good idea, as it instantly gives a straight cut square to the pipe, which is necessary for a good flare, and utterly essential if using one of the cheap clamp type flaring tools.
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #26 on: 02 April 2016, 14:45:22 »

If you do decide to go ahead and d.i.y. make sure any bends you need to put into pipe are smooth with no kinks,and that once done brakes are thoroughly bled and all air expelled.

Will do. I'm going to do the job next week. :y
  I bought a flaring tool kit a while ago via amazon I think. it came with a pipe bender & pipe cutter for £15 + free delivery. also there are loads of how-to info & video clips online to assist.  :y
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #27 on: 02 April 2016, 20:12:07 »

If you do decide to go ahead and d.i.y. make sure any bends you need to put into pipe are smooth with no kinks,and that once done brakes are thoroughly bled and all air expelled.

Will do. I'm going to do the job next week. :y

 :y

These can come in handy too....... http://www.lasertools.co.uk/product/3483
They can be purchased for less money than this though.


I had one of those, and found that it only does large radius bends in the middle of a pipe. And you can do those just as easily by bending the pipe around a former that you already own, like a socket, bottle, pipe, post etc.


What you really need for doing neat, safe brake pipe installations is the ability to put really tight bends next to each other, or right at the end of an already formed pipe. That's where this comes into its own:  http://www.automec.co.uk/collections/tools/products/small-pipe-bending-tool-by-oakes A small twist type pipe cutter is also a good idea, as it instantly gives a straight cut square to the pipe, which is necessary for a good flare, and utterly essential if using one of the cheap clamp type flaring tools.

Twisting pipe cutter essential as said - and not many pennies at all.

Did you have to show me that small bending tool Nick? I already have a shopping list of shiny things I can't afford!
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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #28 on: 02 April 2016, 20:59:25 »




I had one of those, and found that it only does large radius bends in the middle of a pipe. And you can do those just as easily by bending the pipe around a former that you already own, like a socket, bottle, pipe, post etc.


What you really need for doing neat, safe brake pipe installations is the ability to put really tight bends next to each other, or right at the end of an already formed pipe. That's where this comes into its own:  http://www.automec.co.uk/collections/tools/products/small-pipe-bending-tool-by-oakes A small twist type pipe cutter is also a good idea, as it instantly gives a straight cut square to the pipe, which is necessary for a good flare, and utterly essential if using one of the cheap clamp type flaring tools.

Twisting pipe cutter essential as said - and not many pennies at all.

Did you have to show me that small bending tool Nick? I already have a shopping list of shiny things I can't afford!


It's about £15? Mine was bundled with their flaring tool at a show some years ago. I didn't expect it to be up to much, but changed my tune as soon as I used it. As has anyone I've lent it to as it makes perfect bends every time with no effort whatsoever. You can even put a 90 degree bend on an already flared pipe with just enough float for the fitting to move.



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Re: Brake pipe replacement
« Reply #29 on: 03 April 2016, 10:07:39 »

Should have said "don't currently need and can't njustify"  but my point stands ;)

Every spare penny is being split between the two Omegas and the wedding fund at the moment... hence my tight northern ways are coming to the fore  ;D
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