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[STEMO]

I'm starting to seriously consider one of these sometime in the future. It appears, to me, to be a win-win option. The only thing that need urgent action is the infrastructure to support the rollout of these machines. We have a charging point in our garage which was, apparently, an option when the house was built. Never been used, of course, but I think the government should be compelling developers to include them in all new builds.

[biggriffin]

If you do, get solar panels on your house roof.

[zirk]

A friend of mine got one of those Lexus Hydro thingy's, predominantly to save on fuel cost in and out London, whilst it wasn't his dream car, it would perform to 60+ MPG without trying on Petrol cost (Dont think he calculated the Liccy bill into the equation though), keeping it fully charged was the key though.

Must admit not really my thing as a main Car, decent engine and LPG for me, but I do have access to a smaller cheapo run around for poddling around and driving with a paper bag on my head.

[tunnie]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet 

[Shackeng]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet

True at present, but power storage/solar power/renewables should improve making them viable.

[STEMO]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet 

The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.

[tunnie]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet

True at present, but power storage/solar power/renewables should improve making them viable.

Yes true, but that decades away though in my view. As coal fired, gas and nuclear power are here for some time yet.

You then have to add in how will batteries recycled, the cost of producing them and having them changed every few years.

Not sure i'd personally be happy with  leccy car as main driver, maybe as commuter as you know the distances. As plans change, if you run low on fuel you can easily get more. Run low on leccy while driving, you are fairly screwed.

[STEMO]

Tunnie, you are the only 30 something dinosaur that I know. 

[tunnie]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet 

The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.

So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.

Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years 

[tunnie]

Tunnie, you are the only 30 something dinosaur that I know. 

I want cheap reliable motoring, with comfort thrown in. What's wrong with that? 

[redelitev6]

We use a leaf at work , have to say it can be surprisingly quick off the mark , very eerie to drive as they are silent .

[steve6367]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet 

The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.

So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.

Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years 

I don't imagine many people that buy a new car still have it after 8 years......so wont put people off buying it. They have a massive waiting list I believe?

[STEMO]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet 

The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.

So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.

Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years 

I usually go through two cars in eight years, so....no worries. 

[STEMO]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet 

The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.

So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.

Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years 

I don't imagine many people that buy a new car still have it after 8 years......so wont put people off buying it. They have a massive waiting list I believe?

Tunnie does 

[STEMO]

You will note, btw, my post said 'sometime in the future'.