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[tunnie]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet 

The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.

So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.

Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years 

I usually go through two cars in eight years, so....no worries. 

 

Oh yeah forgot about that  - Guess if you have the money, why not?

I paid £2.7k for my 2.2 many, many moons ago. (2005!) -  Apart from basic service schedule parts, it's been rock solid. Apart from stat issue recently.

It's cost very little to run thanks to OOF, I don't know what I will do when these old barges cannot be run any more. If I had to rely on garages, safe to say I would no longer have it. So maybe once I no longer DIY, I too would have a car for 4 years or so 

[STEMO]

And, while we're on the subject, a new, top of the range, omega was thirty odd grand when new. Eight years later........junk. 

[05omegav6]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet 

The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.

So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.

Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years 

FFS Tunnie you can be such a stupid arse at times.

Stop reading naysaying rubbish. Tesla pour all their profit back into Research and Development. Their product is good because they believe in it and invest accordingly.

If you get a moment or two at work, watch Revenge of the Electric Car and report back. I would also politely suggest a visit to your local Tesla outlet one lunch break.

[STEMO]

Knew you'd be along soon, Al. 

[aaronjb]

Tesla Motors were founded 13 years ago, I think they'll be here in 8 more. Especially with $8bn in cash & assets.

[05omegav6]

Tesla Motors were founded 13 years ago, I think they'll be here in 8 more. Especially with $8bn in cash & assets.

Plant in Holland coming on line imminently too, which will help pricing

[TheBoy]

Ignore the range, none of us will ever reach that figure.  Also, if you regularly half flatten the battery, the battery life is severely reduced. Using the fast charger also. This is why NO purely electric car is suitable for my 50m daily commute, as even if I could charge it in time overnight (not enough time), the 50m drain would kill the batteries.


Many manufacturers will rent you the batteries, but when I looked, I'd be paying £400pm to do so with the options I'd have to use...   ...makes fossil fuel more enticing.

[Gaffers]

The batteries on the leaf cost 5k and are guaranteed for 5 years which means they will either last 10 year or 5 and a day.

I bought mine.  Made more financial sense.

[Gaffers]

They also get fully tested every year at service.  After 3 years ours are still in tip top condition despite doing 30k miles and making a few long trips to Sheffield and Tenby.

[05omegav6]

What seems to put people off the Model S is the price. The Model 3 goes along way to addressing that, it costs the same as the leaf with twice the range. And by the time it is released, I expect the advertised range will have increased some

[Gaffers]

We're going for another leaf with the new bigger battery pack.  Then when the model 3.1 comes out (when they fix the niggles after release) then we'll get it

[tunnie]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet 

The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.

So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.

Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years 

FFS Tunnie you can be such a stupid arse at times.

Stop reading naysaying rubbish. Tesla pour all their profit back into Research and Development. Their product is good because they believe in it and invest accordingly.

If you get a moment or two at work, watch Revenge of the Electric Car and report back. I would also politely suggest a visit to your local Tesla outlet one lunch break.

What profit? You have to turn a profit to re-invest. Their losses are increasing (but revenue up) they burning more cash reserves. They have a hype about them, which is not sustainable.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Anyway....electric cars have been about since the dawn of time so I fail to see how they can be the future.

Petrol for me.....

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

If you really want an alternative to petrol then hydrogen fuel cell is the way to go.