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[Nick W]

Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!

Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.

For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.

It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet 

The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.

So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.

Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years 

FFS Tunnie you can be such a stupid arse at times.

Stop reading naysaying rubbish. Tesla pour all their profit back into Research and Development. Their product is good because they believe in it and invest accordingly.

If you get a moment or two at work, watch Revenge of the Electric Car and report back. I would also politely suggest a visit to your local Tesla outlet one lunch break.

What profit? You have to turn a profit to re-invest. Their losses are increasing (but revenue up) they burning more cash reserves. They have a hype about them, which is not sustainable.

The cars are more like R&D for their battery and charging tech. And 12 years is no time at all for and industrial startup.

[tunnie]

I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv.

Indeed.  I have no interest in them, they are not the future.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv.

Indeed.  I have no interest in them, they are not the future.

For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.

Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again.

[tooleater]

I think Mr Musk is set to release a smaller 4 door version of the current model in 2017, if he can produce the goods as 276,000 punters in the good ole US of A have already paid  their Deposit. When said model hits the U.K at supposedly £18k a few people in the car industry could well be spitting feathers.

[05omegav6]

I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv.

Indeed.  I have no interest in them, they are not the future.

For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.

Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again.

Guess again...

https://youtu.be/oQ9omrZ9hSA

And...

https://youtu.be/_nQDU7HOStc

Not so cocky now

[dbug]

I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv.

Indeed.  I have no interest in them, they are not the future.

For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.

Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again.

Guess again...

https://youtu.be/oQ9omrZ9hSA

And...

https://youtu.be/_nQDU7HOStc

Not so cocky now

Guess this is "the watch this space" car you are going for    Only around £25K to pay with the £200 part ex for the Focus. 

[tooleater]

Absolutely. Last Monday morning I witnessed on M4 going towards Maidenhead, a white Tesla Wipe the floor with an A.m.g Merc

[tunnie]

Absolutely. Last Monday morning I witnessed on M4 going towards Maidenhead, a white Tesla Wipe the floor with an A.m.g Merc

Not exactly hard though 

Mother Tunnies Merc is the 'AMG' version with it's alloys, it has a 2.1 diesel engine 

[05omegav6]

Absolutely. Last Monday morning I witnessed on M4 going towards Maidenhead, a white Tesla Wipe the floor with an A.m.g Merc

Not exactly hard though 

Mother Tunnies Merc is the 'AMG' version with it's alloys, it has a 2.1 diesel engine 

The full fat AMG cars are easily distinguished by proper wheels and body kit... 

Actually, you know what...

https://youtu.be/Zuh_ylt2keg

[Andy B]

I kinda considered an Ampera as a car just for getting me to work & back. Range is/should be sufficient to commute on just battery power and there's a 1400cc genny if it runs out of Durracel power. I could better things with £10k though and those batteries will need replacing at some time 

[jimbo125]

The one with the V10 R8 Audi is a bit impressive

[omega2018]

Tesla Motors were founded 13 years ago, I think they'll be here in 8 more. Especially with $8bn in cash & assets.

only started general production 8 years ago.  sacked 1/4 staff and had to be bailed out by govt with $460mil in 2009 . safety recall of 345 roadsters in 2009 "could cause the driver to lose control of the car and cause it to crash." and 439 roadsters in 2010.  I think that's over 50% of production at the time.  share price has shot up though so who knows.  i would ask if the 8yr guarantee is underwritten by anyone else though.

[Kevin Wood]

Absolutely. Last Monday morning I witnessed on M4 going towards Maidenhead, a white Tesla Wipe the floor with an A.m.g Merc

Not exactly hard though 

Mother Tunnies Merc is the 'AMG' version with it's alloys, it has a 2.1 diesel engine 

The full fat AMG cars are easily distinguished by proper wheels and body kit... 

Actually, you know what...

https://youtu.be/Zuh_ylt2keg

That's the first roundabout taken care of, but I think I'll wait until TheBoy can drive one across Milton Keynes without a recharge.

Besides, I'd have to pay that bloke in the Ferrari a bit to follow me around so I've got a soundtrack.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv.

Indeed.  I have no interest in them, they are not the future.

For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.

Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again.

Guess again...

https://youtu.be/oQ9omrZ9hSA

And...

https://youtu.be/_nQDU7HOStc

Not so cocky now

Hmmm....Monster and instant torque gets it off the line pretty smartly, but it runs out of steam about half way down the strip.

I imagine it would be slower still as the battery charge diminishes.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

....and what about the aural element of the equation?