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Talking of ebay
« on: 20 July 2008, 22:44:46 »

[size=12]Talking of Ebay, I recently listed some items, 1 of which was an electric bike, collection only, to discover there was an identical item, collection only, listed about 10 miles from me. :(
This had 2 bidders on it and stated in the listing that there was a fault, that it would only run 100 yards before the battery went flat. A third person placed, the winning bid, which is higher than mine is at the moment. :( This meant that someone has decided to pay more for an identical product that is faulty. :o :o :o
And mine has a top box as well. :y
Also, collection only, one guy wanted me to post it to Portugal,  another to Leicester. [/size] :-X
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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #1 on: 20 July 2008, 22:53:42 »

potentially shill bidding pushing bids up on theirs?
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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #2 on: 20 July 2008, 22:59:22 »

Never thought of that. :y
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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #3 on: 20 July 2008, 23:41:38 »

does the other one finish before yours ?
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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #4 on: 20 July 2008, 23:43:35 »

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does the other one finish before yours ?

Yes, it has finished now.
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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #5 on: 21 July 2008, 00:35:15 »

hopefully the people who think they lost out on the other auction will switch to yours. :y
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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #6 on: 21 July 2008, 10:30:49 »

Not always, I have seen times where other auctions for essentially the same thing have gone for a lot less. People seem to get all worked up about a certain auction and go for it, and if they loose they don't seem to look elsewhere. I still recon the best time to finish is on a Sat afternoon, when there is no F1 race on !. Football matches are another big killer on the bidding front.

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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #7 on: 21 July 2008, 10:46:26 »

I have given up trying to work out how people buy stuff on e-bay it never makes sense and logic never seems to come into it, when you put something on it's really pot luck it you get what the item is worth. I find putting something towards the end of the month which closes on or just before the last friday of the month is helpful as most people have been paid by then. Last item i sold on ebay was an old Diesel Rover 800 which i had paid £100 for i sold it for £430 and I consider myself lucky in being in the right place at the right time.
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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #8 on: 21 July 2008, 11:22:07 »

If the bidding on my ebay item seems to be going to slowly i get family and friends to bid on it in order to push the price up.
human nature means that people like to see other people are interested in the same item.
If no other genuine people make a bid i usually pull the item before the last 24 hours.
This rarely happens.
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« Reply #9 on: 21 July 2008, 11:32:56 »

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If the bidding on my ebay item seems to be going to slowly i get family and friends to bid on it in order to push the price up.
human nature means that people like to see other people are interested in the same item.
If no other genuine people make a bid i usually pull the item before the last 24 hours.
This rarely happens.

 :o As a 'good faith' regular bidder (and a realist) I know 'shill' bidding goes-on ; but please don`t be so blatant about what you`re upto! >:(
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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #10 on: 21 July 2008, 13:10:20 »

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If the bidding on my ebay item seems to be going to slowly i get family and friends to bid on it in order to push the price up.
human nature means that people like to see other people are interested in the same item.
If no other genuine people make a bid i usually pull the item before the last 24 hours.
This rarely happens.

Well i know not to buy any of your items then. :o
I feel that if you want a minimum price for an item then that should be your start price. I always list to sell, whatever the price, above my starting price. I currently have an item at 99p, no bids 2 watchers, in my listing I plainly stated that this item will go to the tip or a charity shop if it does not sell, for the latter I  ::)would have to clean it up a bit so likely to be the tip ::)
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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #11 on: 21 July 2008, 14:11:59 »

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If the bidding on my ebay item seems to be going to slowly i get family and friends to bid on it in order to push the price up.
human nature means that people like to see other people are interested in the same item.
If no other genuine people make a bid i usually pull the item before the last 24 hours.
This rarely happens.

I am happy to resort to this. On Ebay you cannot place a reserve unless it is above £50? To create interest you start the bidding low, and place a few bids yourself if the listing is slow. Once bidding has started it usually takes off anyway.

It's best not to be too pious about this technique. It is also a way of saving Ebay listing fees, and lets face they are extremely high. On low priced items, paid through Paypal they have a cut of over 20%

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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #12 on: 21 July 2008, 14:19:11 »

Hence my high postage rates
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« Reply #13 on: 21 July 2008, 16:41:35 »

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If the bidding on my ebay item seems to be going to slowly i get family and friends to bid on it in order to push the price up.
human nature means that people like to see other people are interested in the same item.
If no other genuine people make a bid i usually pull the item before the last 24 hours.
This rarely happens.

I am happy to resort to this. On Ebay you cannot place a reserve unless it is above £50? To create interest you start the bidding low, and place a few bids yourself if the listing is slow. Once bidding has started it usually takes off anyway.

It's best not to be too pious about this technique. It is also a way of saving Ebay listing fees, and lets face they are extremely high. On low priced items, paid through Paypal they have a cut of over 20%

With the greatest of respect; one cannot be "a little bit honest".....for, honesty either exists or doesn`t.

It would appear generally that the 'modern view' is to have flexible (cut and paste) views on honesty and morals....e.g: as witnessed by the antics seen commonly on eBay.

Personally I pefer to treat others (even when protected by the moral-distance and anonymity afforded by eBay) the way I myself should wish to be treated: decently, fairly and honestly. :)

Old-fashioned or pious I may (seem to) be; but I would not wish to live any other way. ;)
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Re: Talking of ebay
« Reply #14 on: 21 July 2008, 17:10:04 »

Until recently we were looking for a new house, and went to several house auctions.

Although we did not know it at the time, apparently it is perfectly legal for the Auctioneer to take bids "Off the wall". ie, these are phantom bids provided by the auctioneer in order to create interest in a house, that little interest was shown in.

Sometimes a whole house would be withdrawn because there were no genuine bidders to progress the bidding. I'm surprised that this is legal, but, apparently it is  :-?

In the end people should only bid what they are prepared to pay on any item, be it a second hand television off Ebay or a £200,000 house at auction.
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