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Re: Lotus Senator for sale...
« Reply #15 on: 15 June 2016, 10:51:42 »


I remember it well, was it Jonathan Bennett that was the owner a few years ago?

It`s still a nice car and I always preferred the Senator rear quarter lights to the Carlton.

Yes that name rings a bell, but the owner I'm thinking of is Dave K, or perhaps it was his Father in Law Bob. Those two sorted out a number of electrical gremlins with the car whilst it was in their ownership, and AFAIK it was a reasonably well sorted car when it left their ownership. That was a fair few years ago now though and it doesn't take long for the tin worm to get to Carlton's and Senators so it could be anything from pristine to a rust bucket by now.

If stripped for parts I reckon it might make £5-£10K provided the major mechanicals, interior, and body kit find desparate enough new owner(s). I'd rather the car stayed as it is though but 'mid teens' seems a bit steep to me. Having said that, I don't really like or understand the modified car market.     
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Re: Lotus Senator for sale...
« Reply #16 on: 15 June 2016, 11:41:11 »

No, dear Mr Gav, I read that  ;) - my point being as I understood it, a perfectly serviceable - even very good nick - LC was dismantled/destroyed for its parts to make this.

Mr LC0112G says two scrapped LC/LOs were used as donors. But if you take an Mot'd, taxed car, then dismantle it, it becomes 'scrapped' - I was just inquiring whether before the donor vehicles were stripped, were either actually Mot'd, running cars, or were they both accident damaged/writeoffs/beyond saving etc?  :)

From memory - which isn't always 100% reliable - one of the 'donor' cars was James W's Lotus Omega, which is the Left hooker version of an LC. At the time LO's were worth around £10K-£15K depending on condition which was significantly less than an LC of the same quality. I don't know what James sold his car for or the condition of the car - it was a runner, taxed and MOT - more than that you'd have to ask him. I think some other (RHD specific) parts were salvaged from an already wrecked LC.

Again from memory, the shell of the stripped LO subsequently re-surfaced with another ABS member, and there was talk of rebuilding it. I don't know if that happened though

See i had this in my head, as being James' but wasnt sure. This was my 'concern' - that a rare car got rarer. To strip parts from a wrecked writeoff is one thing, but I do feel a bit 'odd' seeing one of my all-time favourite cars stripped purely for parts.

And when you see a project for sale like this, as you say, Mr Gav, stripped it will be a more appealing buy than as a whole car, to many. Which is a shame in itself. Originality over modded, as the rule, yes. Much like an original, as-factory Astra GTE 16v will be worth more than one with a candy-apple red respray and £10k of spax/momo etc gear thrown at it.
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Re: Lotus Senator for sale...
« Reply #17 on: 15 June 2016, 13:43:13 »

Its made up from parts from a Carlton??,    you mean,.....   its a Genuine Fake !!     next your be telling us the Bonnet Vents aren't real and made from Carbon Fiber or something !!  :o

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« Reply #18 on: 15 June 2016, 13:50:34 »

Its made up from parts from a Carlton??,    you mean,.....   its a Genuine Fake !!     next your be telling us the Bonnet Vents aren't real and made from Carbon Fiber or something !!  :o

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Re: Lotus Senator for sale...
« Reply #19 on: 15 June 2016, 13:59:40 »


I remember it well, was it Jonathan Bennett that was the owner a few years ago?

It`s still a nice car and I always preferred the Senator rear quarter lights to the Carlton.

Yes that name rings a bell, but the owner I'm thinking of is Dave K, or perhaps it was his Father in Law Bob. Those two sorted out a number of electrical gremlins with the car whilst it was in their ownership, and AFAIK it was a reasonably well sorted car when it left their ownership. That was a fair few years ago now though and it doesn't take long for the tin worm to get to Carlton's and Senators so it could be anything from pristine to a rust bucket by now.

If stripped for parts I reckon it might make £5-£10K provided the major mechanicals, interior, and body kit find desparate enough new owner(s). I'd rather the car stayed as it is though but 'mid teens' seems a bit steep to me. Having said that, I don't really like or understand the modified car market.   

I forgot Dave K had it before him, it would be nice to see it kept as it is but like you say it could be full of rot underneath and behind the bodywork and would it really be worth the expense of saving it?

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Re: Lotus Senator for sale...
« Reply #20 on: 15 June 2016, 14:21:58 »


I remember it well, was it Jonathan Bennett that was the owner a few years ago?

It`s still a nice car and I always preferred the Senator rear quarter lights to the Carlton.

Yes that name rings a bell, but the owner I'm thinking of is Dave K, or perhaps it was his Father in Law Bob. Those two sorted out a number of electrical gremlins with the car whilst it was in their ownership, and AFAIK it was a reasonably well sorted car when it left their ownership. That was a fair few years ago now though and it doesn't take long for the tin worm to get to Carlton's and Senators so it could be anything from pristine to a rust bucket by now.

If stripped for parts I reckon it might make £5-£10K provided the major mechanicals, interior, and body kit find desparate enough new owner(s). I'd rather the car stayed as it is though but 'mid teens' seems a bit steep to me. Having said that, I don't really like or understand the modified car market.   

I forgot Dave K had it before him, it would be nice to see it kept as it is but like you say it could be full of rot underneath and behind the bodywork and would it really be worth the expense of saving it?

Looks like James B is selling it on behalf of his brother, judging by his portfolio of cars under his user-name, although he owned it himself for a while as well.
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« Reply #21 on: 15 June 2016, 16:53:59 »

I would like to do the same thing to a facelift Elite Omega. A kind of updated version of what Omegatoy did all those years ago.
Apparently the one he did has been broken up for parts, which is a real shame, as it was a real one off.
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« Reply #22 on: 15 June 2016, 16:56:18 »

I would like to do the same thing to a facelift Elite Omega. A kind of updated version of what Omegatoy did all those years ago.
Apparently the one he did has been broken up for parts, which is a real shame, as it was a real one off.


A Lotus Omega Estate sounds fun. Although a 500hp LS engine is probably more effective and cheaper.
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« Reply #23 on: 15 June 2016, 19:03:51 »

Saw this at Billing a few years ago and was intrigued by it.It's the sort of thing I'd like,however a quick glance at the advert and I don't think I'd go to mid teens for it[even had I the money] as it now stands even though it's a one off rarity.
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« Reply #24 on: 15 June 2016, 19:46:07 »

I would like to do the same thing to a facelift Elite Omega. A kind of updated version of what Omegatoy did all those years ago.
Apparently the one he did has been broken up for parts, which is a real shame, as it was a real one off.


A Lotus Omega Estate sounds fun. Although a 500hp LS engine is probably more effective and cheaper.

It's called a VXR estate. Or import from Australia Holden clubsport.
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Re: Lotus Senator for sale...
« Reply #25 on: 15 June 2016, 19:59:39 »

I would like to do the same thing to a facelift Elite Omega. A kind of updated version of what Omegatoy did all those years ago.
Apparently the one he did has been broken up for parts, which is a real shame, as it was a real one off.


A Lotus Omega Estate sounds fun. Although a 500hp LS engine is probably more effective and cheaper.

It's called a VXR estate. Or import from Australia Holden clubsport.
If we leave the EU, the import duties might become viable... 8)
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« Reply #26 on: 15 June 2016, 20:51:23 »

I would like to do the same thing to a facelift Elite Omega. A kind of updated version of what Omegatoy did all those years ago.
Apparently the one he did has been broken up for parts, which is a real shame, as it was a real one off.


A Lotus Omega Estate sounds fun. Although a 500hp LS engine is probably more effective and cheaper.

It's called a VXR estate. Or import from Australia Holden clubsport.
If we leave the EU, the import duties might become viable... 8)

It's cheaper to import from Australia, including transporting cost, still cheaper than buying a uk vxr.8
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Re: Lotus Senator for sale...
« Reply #27 on: 16 June 2016, 00:33:51 »

I would like to do the same thing to a facelift Elite Omega. A kind of updated version of what Omegatoy did all those years ago.
Apparently the one he did has been broken up for parts, which is a real shame, as it was a real one off.


A Lotus Omega Estate sounds fun. Although a 500hp LS engine is probably more effective and cheaper.

It's called a VXR estate. Or import from Australia Holden clubsport.
If we leave the EU, the import duties might become viable... 8)

It's cheaper to import from Australia, including transporting cost, still cheaper than buying a uk vxr.8
And something I was seriously looking into as a little project :-\
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« Reply #28 on: 16 June 2016, 08:30:55 »

Importing from OZ could be a bit of a crap shoot unless,there's someone down there that could be trusted to source a quality car and  take on the the export logistics etc.I know that when having a chat with BG a few months back and he did suggest that as I was in the market for an R8 then bringing in a import from down under could have been the way to go,as the road tax would have been cheaper as one advantage.I have plans to buy another R8 and have looked at the UK based cars that are for sale and why buy a ragged to death UK high miler for 20k IF it's possible to import a newer low mileage car from down under.Sounds like plan but not a clue how to kick it off :-\
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« Reply #29 on: 16 June 2016, 09:37:11 »

Importing from OZ could be a bit of a crap shoot unless,there's someone down there that could be trusted to source a quality car and  take on the the export logistics etc.I know that when having a chat with BG a few months back and he did suggest that as I was in the market for an R8 then bringing in a import from down under could have been the way to go,as the road tax would have been cheaper as one advantage.I have plans to buy another R8 and have looked at the UK based cars that are for sale and why buy a ragged to death UK high miler for 20k IF it's possible to import a newer low mileage car from down under.Sounds like plan but not a clue how to kick it off :-\

As I might well be emigrating in the next couple of years...  :-X ;)

But my plan was to go for a trip over each time and source vehicles myself. We have very good friends in the Melbourne area and it would make trips out there a little more affordable if there was a contribution coming from an import business. Trouble is, I only see a very limited market for it :-\
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