Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Search the maintenance guides for answers to 99.999% of Omega questions

Pages: [1] 2 3  All   Go Down

Author Topic: Crank Sensor and anything else  (Read 6456 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Mister Rog

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Wales
  • Posts: 2625
    • Volvo XC70 & V70 D3
    • View Profile
Crank Sensor and anything else
« on: 23 June 2016, 07:43:18 »


I am soon going on a long drive down to S W France, probably around 2,000 + miles. I get the MV6 serviced regularly. Very recently had new coil packs. I sometime read here about crank sensors failing. Just how frequent is this ? Should I get it replaced before going ? Are they expensive ?
Logged
“The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever becoming one.” Billy Connolly

minifreek

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Wigan
  • Posts: 1453
    • 2.4 V70 & 94 Mini SPi
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #1 on: 23 June 2016, 08:19:18 »

Crank sensor is usually just a problem limited to the 2.6/3.2 engines.... not normally a problem on the 2.5/3.0 engines...

It wouldn't harm to get it replaced, if you feel it might need it - just in case, but hen Id be inclined to replace evry sensor too....

Just make sure you have Euro cover with the RAC/AA/Greenflag.....
Logged
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F...

Andy B

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Gender: Male
  • Bury Lancs
  • Posts: 39771
    • ML350 TDM SmartRoadster
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #2 on: 23 June 2016, 08:40:54 »

..... Just how frequent is this ?
Not very, but having a spare when in Deepest France could very well save you a day or so of waiting for a new one. French only really do French cars. Many years (15 ?) ago, my V6's exhaust failed very noisily, I calledinto a Feuvert ... a French Halfords .... and they wanted €700 for cheap Bosal exhaust

Should I get it replaced before going ?
No, just put a genuine spare in the boot, just incase.

Are they expensive ?
Cheap, pattern sensors are very cheap, but IIRC my OE from Vauxhall was more like £70 (I think)

And failing crank sensors does affect 2.5/3.0 as much as the later cars
Logged

Bojan

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Croatia, Slavonski Brod
  • Posts: 466
    • MV6 3.0
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #3 on: 23 June 2016, 08:56:50 »

I believe you have, but worht a mention:
Check plug wells for oil (leaking camcover seals) -> IMO long trip could ruin HT leads which are deteorated by oil, but were still working perfectly fine before the trip.

Also, check your scuttle for leaks -> if it leaks, on heavy rain, quite a lot of water drips all over the DIS pack. Hot DIS pack and cold water is not a good combo.

One more thing -> HBV - they fail sometimes, spraying cooland around the back of the engine. Again, DIS pack.
Logged

Mister Rog

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Wales
  • Posts: 2625
    • Volvo XC70 & V70 D3
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #4 on: 23 June 2016, 10:03:38 »

..... Just how frequent is this ?
Not very, but having a spare when in Deepest France could very well save you a day or so of waiting for a new one. French only really do French cars. Many years (15 ?) ago, my V6's exhaust failed very noisily, I calledinto a Feuvert ... a French Halfords .... and they wanted €700 for cheap Bosal exhaust

Should I get it replaced before going ?
No, just put a genuine spare in the boot, just incase.

Are they expensive ?
Cheap, pattern sensors are very cheap, but IIRC my OE from Vauxhall was more like £70 (I think)

And failing crank sensors does affect 2.5/3.0 as much as the later cars

Helpful. Thanks  :y

But I may just get it replaced and keep the existing one as a spare. I read here that they can fail after 100k miles. As far as I know mine has never been replaced and I'm at 115k. I did much the same trip last year without any problems, but I'm a pessimist  ???
Logged
“The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever becoming one.” Billy Connolly

Entwood

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • North Wiltshire
  • Posts: 19566
  • My Old 3.2 V6 Elite (LPG)
    • Audi A6 Allroad 3.0 DTI
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #5 on: 23 June 2016, 10:10:02 »

I carry a spare new crank sensor in the boot all the time, takes up very little room, and is actually very easy to change.

Most things that fail on the Omega are "bodgeable" to a certain extent, or pattern parts can be used to get you home.. but a failed CS means the engine stops and will not run.... end of story.... and getting hold of a GENUINE GM spare may be somewhat difficult, especially in France.
Logged

Mister Rog

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Wales
  • Posts: 2625
    • Volvo XC70 & V70 D3
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #6 on: 23 June 2016, 11:05:53 »

I carry a spare new crank sensor in the boot all the time, takes up very little room, and is actually very easy to change.

Most things that fail on the Omega are "bodgeable" to a certain extent, or pattern parts can be used to get you home.. but a failed CS means the engine stops and will not run.... end of story.... and getting hold of a GENUINE GM spare may be somewhat difficult, especially in France.

Exactly my thoughts. I'm getting it changed before going and hanging on to the old one as a spare. I've had a sensor fail on a previous Omega. Yes' it just stops  :(

It may be easy to change for car DIY-ers, but I simply have no idea about even where this is or where to begin. I do none of my own work. So my local independant garage is doing it next week, with genuine Bosch part.
Logged
“The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever becoming one.” Billy Connolly

Mr Gav

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Leeds
  • Posts: 1924
    • Nissan 370z GT Edition
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #7 on: 23 June 2016, 11:24:09 »

If you`re driving to France no doubt you will have some form of breakdown cover, so as long as you have the part in the boot then they will be able to fit it for you at the roadside  :y
Logged

YZ250

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Oxford/Bucks border
  • Posts: 4623
    • Black 3.2 Elite Estate
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #8 on: 23 June 2016, 11:38:55 »

But I may just get it replaced and keep the existing one as a spare. I read here that they can fail after 100k miles.........

Entirely your choice obviously, but I'd go with a genuine spare in the boot. The reason being, one of my crank sensors lasted over 60k miles and another lasted less than 20k miles. They were both genuine, purchased over the counter at my local Vauxhall dealer.
Another reason to take a spare in the boot is that, if you believe the one on there to be original, the garage will just cut it off, as the original is wedged behind pipes. I've tried to remove them intact but the heat shield around the cable is wedged between the pipe and the engine block, making it nigh on impossible to remove without damage. A garage won't mess about, they'll snip it, yank it out and fit the new one, leaving you with no spare.  :y
Be handy if someone close to you could show you where it is to make it easier for you in the event that you need to change it.  :y
Logged
My fun car is a 2020 Bmw F32 430d M Sport with indicators.
My cruiser is an Audi A6 Avant S Line Black Edition with indicators.

Kevin Wood

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Alton, Hampshire
  • Posts: 36415
    • Jaguar XE 25t, Westfield
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #9 on: 23 June 2016, 12:36:15 »

Crank sensor is usually just a problem limited to the 2.6/3.2 engines.... not normally a problem on the 2.5/3.0 engines...
You might want to check that with TheBoy. ;)

All V6s are prone to crank sensor failure.
Logged
Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/

Shackeng

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Ramsbury
  • Posts: 7763
    • 3.2 Elite 2.0 TitX Mondeo
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #10 on: 23 June 2016, 13:35:18 »

I carry a spare new crank sensor in the boot all the time, takes up very little room, and is actually very easy to change.

Most things that fail on the Omega are "bodgeable" to a certain extent, or pattern parts can be used to get you home.. but a failed CS means the engine stops and will not run.... end of story.... and getting hold of a GENUINE GM spare may be somewhat difficult, especially in France.

Exactly my thoughts. I'm getting it changed before going and hanging on to the old one as a spare. I've had a sensor fail on a previous Omega. Yes' it just stops  :(

It may be easy to change for car DIY-ers, but I simply have no idea about even where this is or where to begin. I do none of my own work. So my local independant garage is doing it next week, with genuine Bosch part.


Is this genuine GM?
Logged

Mister Rog

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Wales
  • Posts: 2625
    • Volvo XC70 & V70 D3
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #11 on: 23 June 2016, 14:25:14 »

I carry a spare new crank sensor in the boot all the time, takes up very little room, and is actually very easy to change.

Most things that fail on the Omega are "bodgeable" to a certain extent, or pattern parts can be used to get you home.. but a failed CS means the engine stops and will not run.... end of story.... and getting hold of a GENUINE GM spare may be somewhat difficult, especially in France.

Exactly my thoughts. I'm getting it changed before going and hanging on to the old one as a spare. I've had a sensor fail on a previous Omega. Yes' it just stops  :(

It may be easy to change for car DIY-ers, but I simply have no idea about even where this is or where to begin. I do none of my own work. So my local independant garage is doing it next week, with genuine Bosch part.


Is this genuine GM?

Well, I think so. My mechanic said that Bosch is manufacturers part, and this seems to

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=96562.0

But, if anyone thinks differently . . . .  :-\
Logged
“The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever becoming one.” Billy Connolly

Steve B

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Leicestershire
  • Posts: 3639
    • '52' MV6 3.2 Saloon
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #12 on: 23 June 2016, 16:42:01 »

..... Just how frequent is this ?
Not very, but having a spare when in Deepest France could very well save you a day or so of waiting for a new one. French only really do French cars. Many years (15 ?) ago, my V6's exhaust failed very noisily, I calledinto a Feuvert ... a French Halfords .... and they wanted €700 for cheap Bosal exhaust

Should I get it replaced before going ?
No, just put a genuine spare in the boot, just incase.

Are they expensive ?
Cheap, pattern sensors are very cheap, but IIRC my OE from Vauxhall was more like £70 (I think)

And failing crank sensors does affect 2.5/3.0 as much as the later cars

Helpful. Thanks  :y

But I may just get it replaced and keep the existing one as a spare. I read here that they can fail after 100k miles. As far as I know mine has never been replaced and I'm at 115k. I did much the same trip last year without any problems, but I'm a pessimist  ???
You cannot remove all of a original crank sensor.
Logged

terry paget

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Midsomer Norton Somerset
  • Posts: 4633
    • 3 Astras 2 Vectra
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #13 on: 23 June 2016, 18:14:20 »

Changing it involves getting under the car. I suppose I might manage to raise the n/s front wheel high enough with the car jack to get the spare wheel under it, then crawl under the car. Is that the recommended technique?
Logged

Lazydocker

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Woodbridge, Suffolk
  • Posts: 18848
  • Constantly Bullied by a certain Admin
    • View Profile
Re: Crank Sensor and anything else
« Reply #14 on: 23 June 2016, 21:17:47 »

Crank sensor is usually just a problem limited to the 2.6/3.2 engines.... not normally a problem on the 2.5/3.0 engines...
You might want to check that with TheBoy. ;)

All V6s are prone to crank sensor failure.

 :-X :-X ;D ;D
Logged
Whatever it is... I didn't do it
Pages: [1] 2 3  All   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.021 seconds with 17 queries.