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[Shackeng]

Quite frankly, if anyone decided to vote on the basis of what either side threatened or promised, their decision was ill-judged.

[flyer 0712]

We could start 2.petitions up...those for remain to sign and one for leave to sign.so if all of those who voted the first time kept to their original choice then we would be in the same boat,,,,what a load of rolliccks from bad loosers..

[zirk]

We could start 2.petitions up...those for remain to sign and one for leave to sign.so if all of those who voted the first time kept to their original choice then we would be in the same boat,,,,what a load of rolliccks from bad loosers..

The petition the BBC are on about, is not about losing the EU Referendum, its was started over a Month ago, as to aid guidelines should the potential voting results be marginal one.

[STEMO]

Some MP's are calling for a vote as to whether article 50 should be implemented. As most Mp's are in the remain camp, that would be 'interesting'. It's not legally binding, remember 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

That thick moron David Lammy has called for parliament to ignore the referendum and stay in. Words fail me. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I get the feeling that the free movement of people is going through a subtle  change.

[LC0112G]

There is no mechanism for the remaining 27 countries to boot us out of the EU. It is up to the UK to invoke Article 50, and until that happens we remain full members with full rights, and full obligations. The only way they could expel us would be for all 27 other countries to invoke article 50 themselves leaving just us in the EU.

I was a remainiac, but accept the result of the referendum. The only way I think a second referendum could possibly be justified would be if the EU came back to us and said something like we've had a rethink - you can have border controls, limits on free movement, exemption from future EU laws, primacy of UK courts over the ECJ blah blah. That would address most of the issues British people have with the EU, and remove the endless aggro that is going to go on for years when we do Brexit. However, the EU won't do that - they had their chance when Dave went to them before he called the referendum and basically blanked him.

So it's now up to the UK to invoke Article 50, and Junker et al can go swivel if he thinks he can affect the timing. Personally I think the timing will be done to best suit the Conservative party. They'll want us to be out before the 2020 general election, but not too long before it in-case things go pear-shaped rapidly. GE is May2020, so say they want to be out 6-9 months before that - Oct2019 after everyone has had their last Summer Holiday in Majorca/Crete/Cyprus. That means invoking Article 50 in Oct2017.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

There is no mechanism for the remaining 27 countries to boot us out of the EU. It is up to the UK to invoke Article 50, and until that happens we remain full members with full rights, and full obligations. The only way they could expel us would be for all 27 other countries to invoke article 50 themselves leaving just us in the EU.

I was a remainiac, but accept the result of the referendum. The only way I think a second referendum could possibly be justified would be if the EU came back to us and said something like we've had a rethink - you can have border controls, limits on free movement, exemption from future EU laws, primacy of UK courts over the ECJ blah blah. That would address most of the issues British people have with the EU, and remove the endless aggro that is going to go on for years when we do Brexit. However, the EU won't do that - they had their chance when Dave went to them before he called the referendum and basically blanked him.

So it's now up to the UK to invoke Article 50, and Junker et al can go swivel if he thinks he can affect the timing. Personally I think the timing will be done to best suit the Conservative party. They'll want us to be out before the 2020 general election, but not too long before it in-case things go pear-shaped rapidly. GE is May2020, so say they want to be out 6-9 months before that - Oct2019 after everyone has had their last Summer Holiday in Majorca/Crete/Cyprus. That means invoking Article 50 in Oct2017.

October 2017

The French want it done and dusted by next Thursday.

Seriously though, I can't imagine the rest of Europe would allow us to take the piss to that extent.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I think it will be invoked before the end of this year. We will see. 

[STEMO]

There is no mechanism for the remaining 27 countries to boot us out of the EU. It is up to the UK to invoke Article 50, and until that happens we remain full members with full rights, and full obligations. The only way they could expel us would be for all 27 other countries to invoke article 50 themselves leaving just us in the EU.

I was a remainiac, but accept the result of the referendum. The only way I think a second referendum could possibly be justified would be if the EU came back to us and said something like we've had a rethink - you can have border controls, limits on free movement, exemption from future EU laws, primacy of UK courts over the ECJ blah blah. That would address most of the issues British people have with the EU, and remove the endless aggro that is going to go on for years when we do Brexit. However, the EU won't do that - they had their chance when Dave went to them before he called the referendum and basically blanked him.

So it's now up to the UK to invoke Article 50, and Junker et al can go swivel if he thinks he can affect the timing. Personally I think the timing will be done to best suit the Conservative party. They'll want us to be out before the 2020 general election, but not too long before it in-case things go pear-shaped rapidly. GE is May2020, so say they want to be out 6-9 months before that - Oct2019 after everyone has had their last Summer Holiday in Majorca/Crete/Cyprus. That means invoking Article 50 in Oct2017.

October 2017

The French want it done and dusted by next Thursday.

Seriously though, I can't imagine the rest of Europe would allow us to take the piss to that extent.

They can't, legally, stop us.

[aaronjb]

I guess they'll just have to send in the German army to persuade us...

[STEMO]

We've had a referendum, our people voted to leave. We tell the EU we want to leave by invoking article 50. We don't have to do it straight away. Our government could say that they've decided to take no notice of the referendum.
It's all in our hands, and, finally, we will do what we want.


The financial and currency markets can punish us, but the EU can't.

[LC0112G]

October 2017

The French want it done and dusted by next Thursday.

Seriously though, I can't imagine the rest of Europe would allow us to take the piss to that extent.

There is nothing they can do to stop us taking the pi55 if we decide to.

Negotiations can start before we invoke Art50 if everyone agrees. I see no reason for the UK not to agree to this. Up to the EU to make their decision if they want to. Nothing much is going to happen before we get a new PM, and that won't be till October 2016. I think the govt will want to implement a new Pre-Brexit Budget too, and that'll be in mid March.

There is also the small matter that the UK only has a small number of suitably qualified negotiators - apparently less than 30 - when its likely we'll need around 500.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Apparently it has been explored whether just an informal discussion of Brexit by David Cameron at Tueday's Council of Europe would constitute him invoking Article 50 verbally.    EU lawyers have been consulted and it has to be in writing from the British Government to the President of the Council of Europe Donald Tusk. 

The article on the BBC brought up the bizarre situation where the British Government has to defend it's position in the ECJ. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36631518

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Apparently it has been explored whether just an informal discussion of Brexit by David Cameron at Tueday's Council of Europe would constitute him invoking Article 50 verbally.    EU lawyers have been consulted and it has to be in writing from the British Government to the President of the Council of Europe Donald Tusk. 

The article on the BBC brought up the bizarre situation where the British Government has to defend it's position in the ECJ. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36631518

The wording is ambiguous.
I really don't think we can take as long as we wish. It is open to interpretation.