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[tigers_gonads]

Is the M25 anti clockwise and the M1 normally like that on a Friday ?

I'll be leaving Newhaven a week on Friday at 7am and need to get home asap because i'm going away with the van the next day.
Is it better to head north then carry on anti clockwise and travel up the M11 / A1 / A46 / A15 ect ?
This time, I went back for breakfast and a couple of hours sleep before entering the M25 clockwise but open to any advise from the drivers and those lads who live around there 

I'm open to heading straight home at 7am as long as I can get a sandwich and a coffee on the way if it works out better 

2 hours from the M23 to the M1 during the busy part of the day? Sounds normal to me, although going anti-clockwise might save you 20minutes. Getting from Newhaven to the M25 without using the M23 is likely to add another hour to that.

Thinking M23 -- M25 anti clockwise -- M11 -- A1 Nick 

Gatwick to Dartford can take at least as long as getting to Heathrow...
Weekday M25 needs to be done before 6 or after 8:30/9

Left the hotel at 11am
Got to my house at 18:07 
Never been so pissed off with driving in my whole life 
Somebody who I classed as a mate decided to sup 3 cans in the 45 minutes it took me to get from the job to the hotel, another before breakfast, opps knows how many while I got my head down for a couple of hours then a good 6 more until he run out of cans near Nottingham 
Then the @anker has a whine when I dropped him off at his front door because he expected me to travel straight home from Newhaven Harbour so he could get home earlier   

[Doctor Gollum]

Well, he could always drive himself

[zirk]

Well, he could always drive himself

I doubt it, sounds like he's permanently over the limit

[biggriffin]

Take the most direct and easiest route.
Put the details into the talking box, see what it's says then add 15minutes.

Remember Dr golham knows a taxi driver, and they go up and round wills mothers, to try and save a mile 

Tell you what, can go that way home from work... will do the B road route tomorrow and the motorway one on Monday, both at same time, leaving the Europa at 6 am... Times and distances to follow

Right, results as follows:

Southbound from hotel to A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill...

1. B2036/2110: 7 minutes/5.6 miles.
2. M23 via J10: 10 minutes/9.7 miles.(Traffic will easily double this time).

Northbound from A23 sliproad at top of Handcross Hill to hotel...
1. B2110/2036: 8 minutes 5.7 miles.

Only thing I will add is don't dick about at the B2036/2110 junction as it's about 75m the wrong side of a blind crest and the B2036 isn't the slowest of roads.

Have fun amongst the loons

Well I made it back with me, the passengers and car in one piece 
Great bit of road and by yesterday, i'd got to know it very well and could normally do it in under 10 minutes in the Picasso  providing you don't end up behind a lycra clad nut job  ,  then your stuffed 
Must say that these new Picasso's are actually a pretty good bus and very comfy too 

7 Friggin hours to get back to mine including nearly 2 hours to get to the M1 
And that was with only 2 15 minute pish stops too 

Oh well, that's the end of Newhaven Harbour for a week or so 
Next week its 4, 12 hour nightshifts in a Boots in Coventry with a bed at the Chace Hotel, Toll Bar End, Coventry 

Should get back home (if the traffic is good to me  ) by 9am Friday morning 

Sadly, its back on the road with the bus, back to Gatwick / Newhaven on the Saturday night / Sunday morning ready for a 7pm start on Sunday evening 

Should have used A1 on a Friday. M1 was knackard, most of Friday 8-9, then 11-14 and the usual 15-17 then 23-25.

Is the M25 anti clockwise and the M1 normally like that on a Friday ?

I'll be leaving Newhaven a week on Friday at 7am and need to get home asap because i'm going away with the van the next day.
Is it better to head north then carry on anti clockwise and travel up the M11 / A1 / A46 / A15 ect ?
This time, I went back for breakfast and a couple of hours sleep before entering the M25 clockwise but open to any advise from the drivers and those lads who live around there 

I'm open to heading straight home at 7am as long as I can get a sandwich and a coffee on the way if it works out better 

Leaving Newhaven at 07.00 to go hull shire, 
The distance is more or less the same going anti or clockwise, also save your money and go up to m18, miss out Humber bridge,..
Dartford crossing is your Achilles heel, and M4 junction M25 the other way, listen to Radio 2 for traffic reports then make your decision as you approach M25,

But for out n out time if all's well m23/m25/m1/m18/m62.

[tigers_gonads]

Radio 2 
Just what a driver needs after a 11 hour night shift   

[tigers_gonads]

Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?

[Nick W]

Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?

Go via the Dartford Tunnel. Which is likely to be just as bad, as is the rest of the M25 round to the M11.


You could leave Newhaven, and go via Tunbridge Wells, Maidstone, Gravesend, Dartford Tunnel etc,etc. Or go via Lewes, Horsham, Guildford, Reading, Slough, High Wycombe and across. Or just go straight up across London. That's using just in the sense of "I'll just gnaw both legs off with somebody else's false teeth."


There is no good way of avoiding the M25 if you actually need to get somewhere. Not using it is much, much worse.

[biggriffin]

Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?

Not really, unless the m25 is closed, just watch everybody else, drink ya coffee and chill. If your brave and stoopid, go thro the middle. A23, croyden, mitchem, Sth circular, Kew, nth circular, the way before m25.   

[Doctor Gollum]

Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?

Yes if you want to go via Birmingham... A281 to Guildford, then A31, A331, M3, A34, M40...

[tigers_gonads]

Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?

Yes if you want to go via Birmingham... A281 to Guildford, then A31, A331, M3, A34, M40...

I did actually think of that way

I was down in Abingdon a few weeks ago and that the way I went.

I don't mind a few more mile, its the sat still that does my tits in 
At the end of the day, the company pays for the fuel 

[zirk]

Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?

Yes if you want to go via Birmingham... A281 to Guildford, then A31, A331, M3, A34, M40...

I did actually think of that way

I was down in Abingdon a few weeks ago and that the way I went.

I don't mind a few more mile, its the sat still that does my tits in 
At the end of the day, the company pays for the fuel 

You could do Birmingham, M40, then M42 or M69 but its a bit of a fuff around, I used to do London, Hull and back on a regular basis a few years back tried all the routes many a times, in the end even though Im only 5 mins to the M11, I would always go M25. M1, M18, then north side of the Humber into Hull, always the quickest way. Theres just too many Roundabouts and HGV's on the non M parts of the A1.

Problem your going to have TG is leaving Newhaven at 7am, your going to hit the M25 peak rush hour(s), and I wouldn't go anywhere near Heathrow territory between 7 and 9.30 am.

Think if was me, I'd be having a lazy Breakfast, then aim to hit the M25 at around 9:30, M25 Dartford to M1 etc,

No easy way really, Google Maps with Traffic Update on will be your friend and fingers crossed..

[Lazydocker]

Anyway to bypass the M3 - M4 bottle neck ?

Yes if you want to go via Birmingham... A281 to Guildford, then A31, A331, M3, A34, M40...

I did actually think of that way

I was down in Abingdon a few weeks ago and that the way I went.

I don't mind a few more mile, its the sat still that does my tits in 
At the end of the day, the company pays for the fuel 

You could do Birmingham, M40, then M42 or M69 but its a bit of a fuff around, I used to do London, Hull and back on a regular basis a few years back tried all the routes many a times, in the end even though Im only 5 mins to the M11, I would always go M25. M1, M18, then north side of the Humber into Hull, always the quickest way. Theres just too many Roundabouts and HGV's on the non M parts of the A1.

Problem your going to have TG is leaving Newhaven at 7am, your going to hit the M25 peak rush hour(s), and I wouldn't go anywhere near Heathrow territory between 7 and 9.30 am.

Think if was me, I'd be having a lazy Breakfast, then aim to hit the M25 at around 9:30, M25 Dartford to M1 etc,

No easy way really, Google Maps with Traffic Update on will be your friend and fingers crossed..

Not any more They all went many years back. From where I join the A14 from the A12 I don't see another roundabout at all until Catterick or Scotch Corner (depending on how I go in) when I go to mother's house in Richmond