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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #1 on: 02 July 2016, 11:11:47 »

Probably watching porn on the DVD player  ::)

I wonder if his hands were on the wheel at the time of the crash  :-\ :D
If he has whiplash, i'd love to see him explain that one on the claims form  ;D ;D
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #2 on: 02 July 2016, 12:02:36 »

Probably watching porn on the DVD player  ::)

I wonder if his hands were on the wheel at the time of the crash  :-\ :D
If he has whiplash, i'd love to see him explain that one on the claims form  ;D ;D
He was cleary distracted away from the road, to have not intervened, but was killed by the fact that the trailer didn't have underrun protection... roof was sliced off as the car passed underneath it...

Technical detail here (no gore)... https://youtu.be/s8AHzY7xr10

Had this crash happened with a european trailer, then the driver would still be alive. Not the fault of the car, but rather an unfortunate combination of circumstances. He should have taken evasive action upon seeing the truck, but I suspect that he was waiting to see how the car responded. That the car didn't react is down to the timing of the incident... Tesla blame the truck colour and sunlight rendering the truck near invisible,  add in the 25-30' gap under the trailer with nothing for the car to pick up, and you can see how it happened...

A couple of his videos showing the capability of the cars autopilot...

A 12 hour trip in timelapse https://youtu.be/Z8G4N89ESWY

Car defends itself from a crappy lane change: https://youtu.be/y4bQBJ2Cfqk

Autopilot in town, listen to what he says, and also read notes on video... : https://youtu.be/69zCIxuxTj0

As a strong advocate of the Tesla, and it's capabilities, it is possible that he had become complacent or overconfident of it... a shame then that his death will be remembered for his mistake rather than for the underlying safety omission of underrun protection on trucks... :-\
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #3 on: 02 July 2016, 13:21:09 »

Wouldn't want one of these at any price, if you don't enjoy driving get a cab 😂😂😂
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #4 on: 02 July 2016, 13:49:36 »

People seem to be missing the elephant in the room with electric and hybrid cars.

I looked into an Infiniti M35h which comes with a paltry 5 year warranty on the lithium battery pack.

Cost to replace £20,000+ :o :o :o effectively rendering the car as scrap as soon as the battery fails. This is usually  6-8 years.
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #5 on: 02 July 2016, 14:18:23 »

Doctor G,

Having seen several RTC's invloving HGV's that do have underun protection I doubt that that would have saved the driver. Only saying this from experience mind. If the car is going quickly enough upon impact any protection whether it be struts along the belly or impact beams the cars natural thing to do upon the impact will make it dig down into the road and inevitably under said safety mechanisms. I've seen a few, as recently as boxing day last year where a BMW got peeled back like a tin can underneath a fully loaded HGV, driver sadly died upon impact. :-\ :-\ :-\
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #6 on: 02 July 2016, 14:18:31 »

People seem to be missing the elephant in the room with electric and hybrid cars.

I looked into an Infiniti M35h which comes with a paltry 5 year warranty on the lithium battery pack.

Cost to replace £20,000+ :o :o :o effectively rendering the car as scrap as soon as the battery fails. This is usually  6-8 years.

^^^ What he said. :y
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #7 on: 02 July 2016, 14:19:19 »

Doctor G,

Having seen several RTC's invloving HGV's that do have underun protection I doubt that that would have saved the driver. Only saying this from experience mind. If the car is going quickly enough upon impact any protection whether it be struts along the belly or impact beams the cars natural thing to do upon the impact will make it dig down into the road and inevitably under said safety mechanisms. I've seen a few, as recently as boxing day this year where a BMW got peeled back like a tin can underneath a fully loaded HGV, driver sadly died upon impact. :-\ :-\ :-\

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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #8 on: 02 July 2016, 15:17:49 »

Driver error, possibly fell asleep, therefore didn't see a bloody great 45ft white box along side him.
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #9 on: 02 July 2016, 20:48:48 »

Theres no strength requirements for hgv side under run bars. They are more for pedestrian safety.
At mot time, dimensions are the things that are checked. Overall they are quite lightweight and flimsy are are in no way designed to prevent a vehicle travelling with any gusto from going underneath.
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #10 on: 02 July 2016, 21:21:00 »

Didn't the tesla guys watch any of the Terminator films,give computers a mind of their own and they'll kill you. ;D
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #11 on: 02 July 2016, 21:48:17 »

Point being that a bit more metal lower down and the car might have 'seen' the trailer... Clearly both driver and car failed to spot it, so neither reacted...
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #12 on: 02 July 2016, 22:31:59 »

Autopilots have been used in aviation and the marine environment for decades, but at the end of the day it is up to the crew to monitor the systems no system like this no matter how sophisticated is 100% perfect, though Tesla are certainly leading the field, feel sorry for the relatives left behind to pick up the pieces. Guess he won't be charged?
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #13 on: 03 July 2016, 00:33:21 »

Autopilots have been used in aviation and the marine environment for decades, but at the end of the day it is up to the crew to monitor the systems no system like this no matter how sophisticated is 100% perfect, though Tesla are certainly leading the field, feel sorry for the relatives left behind to pick up the pieces. Guess he won't be charged?
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Re: Tesla crash
« Reply #14 on: 03 July 2016, 06:23:52 »

Probably watching porn on the DVD player  ::)

I wonder if his hands were on the wheel at the time of the crash  :-\ :D
If he has whiplash, i'd love to see him explain that one on the claims form  ;D ;D




oops  ::)
Didn't realise that the driver had lost his head literally  ::)
Maybe have a problem making a claim then  :-[
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