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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Does practical really need to mean dreary?

Hence I like CLS the most so far.

A real looker and best with a big V8 engine that runs on proper fuel.

What does a 2.0 Skoda derv say about the person who owns it?

It says the person who owns it has absolutely no interest in cars.

It says I want to get more than 25mpg on my run to work! Which the diesel would give me, but not if DPF fails!

That dreary old fart STMO would agree with you.

[tunnie]

Does practical really need to mean dreary?

Hence I like CLS the most so far.

A real looker and best with a big V8 engine that runs on proper fuel.

What does a 2.0 Skoda derv say about the person who owns it?

It says the person who owns it has absolutely no interest in cars.

It says I want to get more than 25mpg on my run to work! Which the diesel would give me, but not if when DPF fails!

Corrected it for you, your driving style and commute does not match the needs of a modern diesel

Hummmm, bugger. Perhaps I should run the 3.2 for a while to work, if I can live with that fuel consumption I could run a CLS 500.

[VXL V6]

Gas the 3.2 and buy a mum bus for the Family duties?

[tunnie]

Gas the 3.2 and buy a mum bus for the Family duties?

That is an option, initially I fancied a change. But if derv will be too much trouble, I may have to reconsider my views on gassing the 3.2

[Kevin Wood]

Still not convinced a diesel is going to work for driving around London 

They don't work at all when the DSG selects two gears at once

DSG? Just run. Fast.

[tunnie]

Still not convinced a diesel is going to work for driving around London 

They don't work at all when the DSG selects two gears at once

DSG? Just run. Fast.

I did look at Golfs with DSGs but heard too many stories!

[ronnyd]

My DIL has a Shitreon C5 diesel. due to both short trips and stop and start on longer commutes has loads of DPF, EML and limp mode problems. It,s your choice in the end though.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

My DIL has a Shitreon C5 diesel. due to both short trips and stop and start on longer commutes has loads of DPF, EML and limp mode problems. It,s your choice in the end though.

Was/is this a problem with older derv cars?

[pauls]

Mr T isnt that bloke in london bringing that clean zone down to the bottom of the a4. So he will hit you if you run a derv into work

[tunnie]

Question for Mark, how often does a diesel DPF need regen cycle?

Don't think emission zone extends that far, even new one for 2020

[Nick W]

My DIL has a Shitreon C5 diesel. due to both short trips and stop and start on longer commutes has loads of DPF, EML and limp mode problems. It,s your choice in the end though.

Was/is this a problem with older derv cars?

It's not a problem if if they are not afflicted with DPFs or Adblue type systems. Dual Mass Flywheels and turbos aren't the most reliable things, and the installation and operating requirements of fuel injectors for common rail diesels cause all sorts of expensive problems.


Old fashioned diesels were simple smoky, rattly things that didn't much maintenance or drive particularly well, but they were extremely durable; if the pump wasn't completely knackered, and it the engine still had compression, it would work. Modern ones make large amounts of power and torque, have good economy, are smooth and nice to drive. But this has been achieved at the cost of durability, and the maintenance/repair costs can be horrific. This all means you have to honestly work out your if expected use falls within the diesels capabilities; many owners quickly discover that getting that wrong can be extremely expensive.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Question for Mark, how often does a diesel DPF need regen cycle?

Don't think emission zone extends that far, even new one for 2020

Anywhere within the M25 afaik. Don't know if that would affect you ?

[tunnie]

I was all set on diesel, but my budget means 80k mile versions at best, which means potential problems.

One part of my thinks to buy another Omega for MrsT, sod the fuel issues with the 3.2 and just run with that on my commute. It does what I want, smooth, auto air-con works, has Xenons and decent enough sound system.

The budget I had for a replacement car, could be used to pay for annual insurance for both Omega's for next few years. I currently pay Monthly as MrsT is new to driving and only has 1 year NCB. So insurance is quite steep for her, if it's paid in one go, I don't have that going out each month which would be nice.

I do have the fear as well of not being able to fix the replacement, I know the Omega inside out and nearly all jobs bar cambelts I can do without help.

As at £100/hr garage labour, that eats into any fuel savings too.

[tunnie]

Question for Mark, how often does a diesel DPF need regen cycle?

Don't think emission zone extends that far, even new one for 2020

Anywhere within the M25 afaik. Don't know if that would affect you ?

 

It's no way near that far out, Central only... as per here...

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone

[tunnie]

Could always swap LPG kit onto this, it's tad over-priced but you don't see that many 2.2 Sports about..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Vauxhall-Opel-Omega-2-2i-16v-Sport-Automatic-carlton-senator-/252495536681?hash=item3ac9e82229:g:EigAAOSw0RpXlfTm