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[Nick W]

By the way if you go Volvo route avoid the autos like the plague!

Autos appear to last well, plenty on sale with 200k plus

They are even more notorious for losing drive than Mercedes or Jag and BMW(same gearbox) automatics, so I don't see how you work that out?


I find the LS400 not being OBD compatible and therefore hard to work on comment odd, as it applies to all of its competitors including Omegas. In 12 years of recovery work, the only LS400 I saw needed a new battery, and the only time I took an IS200 to a dealer was for a knackered ignition lock. If you break a big Lexus, you'll sell the engine and gearbox for engine swaps(they're quite popular in '50s American pickups) plus the CD changer and maybe the instrument cluster. The rest of it, you just throw away because nobody needs to buy it

[tunnie]

I do the posts here at times, all Volvo, Jag, Merc autos loose drive. 

Omegas are "notorious" for cam covers, thrust washers, and all sorts.

Few chaps at work have Volvos with mega miles, no auto box problems.

[ronnyd]

Have you considered leasing, thats what my daughter and SIL do. Don,t know how much they shell out though.

[tunnie]

Have you considered leasing, thats what my daughter and SIL do. Don,t know how much they shell out though.

Not a fan, sorry. Or HPI or any kind of rental system, you don't own the car, too many restrictions. Yes I know some you do own the car, but it's on finance. I just don't like them, but cash is my way.

I like to own my own car 

Plus at my budget I would be looking at Focus/Astra I would have though. These deals you see a £299 a month have really low mileage limits and you can quickly burn through cash

[Mister Rog]

Have you considered leasing, thats what my daughter and SIL do. Don,t know how much they shell out though.

Not a fan, sorry. Or HPI or any kind of rental system, you don't own the car, too many restrictions. Yes I know some you do own the car, but it's on finance. I just don't like them, but cash is my way.

I like to own my own car 

Plus at my budget I would be looking at Focus/Astra I would have though. These deals you see a £299 a month have really low mileage limits and you can quickly burn through cash

I agree. Some years ago I was persuaded by the sales guy to buy a brand new car on some finance deal, despite the fact that I could write the cheque. Almost certainly he was on commission. Never again. If I can't afford to just pay for it, I don't buy it. Large companies sometimes look at things differently though.

[horsecow]

Definitely not a fan of finance or leasing. If I can't buy it outright then I don't need it is my view. I'm seriously considering a jag tbh guys, there are a few decent 3.0 v6 models for not much more than 1k. They seem to be well equipped, I'm told they are more than comfortable and they seem to get decent reviews so might give it a try until a decent omega comes up. End of the day it only has to last me until my 3.2 is up and running and it's not dangerous money at the end of the day.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Have you considered leasing, thats what my daughter and SIL do. Don,t know how much they shell out though.

Not a fan, sorry. Or HPI or any kind of rental system, you don't own the car, too many restrictions. Yes I know some you do own the car, but it's on finance. I just don't like them, but cash is my way.

I like to own my own car 

Plus at my budget I would be looking at Focus/Astra I would have though. These deals you see a £299 a month have really low mileage limits and you can quickly burn through cash

There was a deal on HUKD for a MG6 1.9D 2015/16 for £99 a month with no deposit for 2 or 4 years can't remember exactly was awhile ago. Not a bad deal for something to take you about. I'm not a fan of these kind of arrangements either, I prefer to own the car.

[X30XE]

I find the LS400 not being OBD compatible and therefore hard to work on comment odd, as it applies to all of its competitors including Omegas. In 12 years of recovery work, the only LS400 I saw needed a new battery, and the only time I took an IS200 to a dealer was for a knackered ignition lock. If you break a big Lexus, you'll sell the engine and gearbox for engine swaps(they're quite popular in '50s American pickups) plus the CD changer and maybe the instrument cluster. The rest of it, you just throw away because nobody needs to buy it

Err no. The Omega 3.0 is capable of displaying fault codes through the dash. Very slowly admittedly, but at least gives you half a chance. Omega 3.2s are OBDii.
BMW E38 & E39 are also readable with a cheap connector adapter.

So what? They only sold 4 in the UK. Doesn't prove a thing.

Not if the engine won't bloody run proper you can't!  Look on a Lexus Forum and look at what real Lexus owners are actually repairing left right and centre whilst nostalgically telling everyone that their cousin's brother's cat once had one that did 500k on one oil change.

[Nick W]

I find the LS400 not being OBD compatible and therefore hard to work on comment odd, as it applies to all of its competitors including Omegas. In 12 years of recovery work, the only LS400 I saw needed a new battery, and the only time I took an IS200 to a dealer was for a knackered ignition lock. If you break a big Lexus, you'll sell the engine and gearbox for engine swaps(they're quite popular in '50s American pickups) plus the CD changer and maybe the instrument cluster. The rest of it, you just throw away because nobody needs to buy it

Err no. The Omega 3.0 is capable of displaying fault codes through the dash. Very slowly admittedly, but at least gives you half a chance. Omega 3.2s are OBDii.
BMW E38 & E39 are also readable with a cheap connector adapter.

So what? They only sold 4 in the UK. Doesn't prove a thing.

Not if the engine won't bloody run proper you can't!  Look on a Lexus Forum and look at what real Lexus owners are actually repairing left right and centre whilst nostalgically telling everyone that their cousin's brother's cat once had one that did 500k on one oil change.

LS400s display blink codes just like lots of Japanese cars from the eighties onwards. Even a low production specialist car like an NSX does. It takes a bit of wire. Sounds like the Omega paperclip to me.


Sold 4 of what? Both LS and IS Lexus are everywhere?

[tunnie]

Definitely not a fan of finance or leasing. If I can't buy it outright then I don't need it is my view. I'm seriously considering a jag tbh guys, there are a few decent 3.0 v6 models for not much more than 1k. They seem to be well equipped, I'm told they are more than comfortable and they seem to get decent reviews so might give it a try until a decent omega comes up. End of the day it only has to last me until my 3.2 is up and running and it's not dangerous money at the end of the day.

My view too 

Be good to know how you get on with S Type, they are uber cheap. Look a bit fugly though 

Have you considered leasing, thats what my daughter and SIL do. Don,t know how much they shell out though.

Not a fan, sorry. Or HPI or any kind of rental system, you don't own the car, too many restrictions. Yes I know some you do own the car, but it's on finance. I just don't like them, but cash is my way.

I like to own my own car 

Plus at my budget I would be looking at Focus/Astra I would have though. These deals you see a £299 a month have really low mileage limits and you can quickly burn through cash

There was a deal on HUKD for a MG6 1.9D 2015/16 for £99 a month with no deposit for 2 or 4 years can't remember exactly was awhile ago. Not a bad deal for something to take you about. I'm not a fan of these kind of arrangements either, I prefer to own the car.

Yeah, but still issue is paying XYZ amount just to own the car, plus the normal running costs.

I'm coming to the conclusion that I need to LPG the 3.2 and get a Zafira for weekends. As nothing else out there at my price range really appeals, other than CLS but looks like bike won't sell for what I need it to.

[X30XE]

I find the LS400 not being OBD compatible and therefore hard to work on comment odd, as it applies to all of its competitors including Omegas. In 12 years of recovery work, the only LS400 I saw needed a new battery, and the only time I took an IS200 to a dealer was for a knackered ignition lock. If you break a big Lexus, you'll sell the engine and gearbox for engine swaps(they're quite popular in '50s American pickups) plus the CD changer and maybe the instrument cluster. The rest of it, you just throw away because nobody needs to buy it

Err no. The Omega 3.0 is capable of displaying fault codes through the dash. Very slowly admittedly, but at least gives you half a chance. Omega 3.2s are OBDii.
BMW E38 & E39 are also readable with a cheap connector adapter.

So what? They only sold 4 in the UK. Doesn't prove a thing.

Not if the engine won't bloody run proper you can't!  Look on a Lexus Forum and look at what real Lexus owners are actually repairing left right and centre whilst nostalgically telling everyone that their cousin's brother's cat once had one that did 500k on one oil change.

LS400s display blink codes just like lots of Japanese cars from the eighties onwards. Even a low production specialist car like an NSX does. It takes a bit of wire. Sounds like the Omega paperclip to me.


Sold 4 of what? Both LS and IS Lexus are everywhere?

Ah yeah, I remember now, yes you're right. It is supposed to blink but the one I had wouldn't do it.  Presumably because the ECU was fnarked.  Good ol' Toyota engineering.


Lexus LS400s.  They probably sold 1 for every 100 bmws sold. 

[Nick W]

Ah yeah, I remember now, yes you're right. It is supposed to blink but the one I had wouldn't do it.  Presumably because the ECU was fnarked.  Good ol' Toyota engineering.


Lexus LS400s.  They probably sold 1 for every 100 bmws sold.

I bet it outsold its BMW competitor, the 7series, by quite a large margin.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Someone really doesn't like the big LS Lexus 

I'm more keen on the LS430 mini facelift but the LS400 on the whole is good car. You'll always get a bad egg no matter the brand/model.

How many 7-Series, S Class, A8 etc... Have issues.. Compared to the LS.

[serek]

Someone really doesn't like the big LS Lexus 

I'm more keen on the LS430 mini facelift but the LS400 on the whole is good car. You'll always get a bad egg no matter the brand/model.

How many 7-Series, S Class, A8 etc... Have issues.. Compared to the LS.

[/highlight]
German car are more problematic then japs
 but still prefer audi or bmw
for example
I got audi a8 6,0 w12 atm  FYI  1L of gearbox oil cost £35+vat need 11L of it, gasket and filter other £100+vat, ex labour
 

[Doctor Gollum]

Makes the Mercedes M120 engine look much more affordable... Thanks