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Started by Nick W, 10 September 2016, 19:42:03

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Kevin Wood

Quote from: STEMO on 16 November 2017, 12:34:10
Front wheel drive was once unthinkable with anything more than 250bhp, but there are quite a few cars which seem to go in a straight line with it nowadays.

Yep, mostly when you're trying to negotiate a bend. ;)
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Doctor Gollum

Quote from: STEMO on 16 November 2017, 12:34:10
Front wheel drive was once unthinkable with anything more than 250bhp, but there are quite a few cars which seem to go in a straight line with it nowadays.
Only by using different length suspension components and  individual wheel braking to counter yaw ::)
Onanists always think outside the box.

STEMO

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 16 November 2017, 12:39:28
Quote from: STEMO on 16 November 2017, 12:34:10
Front wheel drive was once unthinkable with anything more than 250bhp, but there are quite a few cars which seem to go in a straight line with it nowadays.
Only by using different length suspension components and  individual wheel braking to counter yaw ::)
To counter my what?  :-\

aaronjb

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 16 November 2017, 12:39:28
Quote from: STEMO on 16 November 2017, 12:34:10
Front wheel drive was once unthinkable with anything more than 250bhp, but there are quite a few cars which seem to go in a straight line with it nowadays.
Only by using different length suspension components and  individual wheel braking to counter yaw ::)

Technically I'd say that any decent car suspension should have different length components - specifically the upper & lower wishbones; anything else is a packaging or financial compromise that results in sub-par handling ;)

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: Kevin Wood on 16 November 2017, 12:38:32
Quote from: STEMO on 16 November 2017, 12:34:10
Front wheel drive was once unthinkable with anything more than 250bhp, but there are quite a few cars which seem to go in a straight line with it nowadays.

Yep, mostly when you're trying to negotiate a bend. ;)

As a kid I had a Corgi model of the Oldsmobile Toronado from the mid sixties. A nice big 7 litre V8 driven through the front wheels. :y

Great looking car. :y

Nick W

Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 November 2017, 13:36:00
Quote from: Kevin Wood on 16 November 2017, 12:38:32
Quote from: STEMO on 16 November 2017, 12:34:10
Front wheel drive was once unthinkable with anything more than 250bhp, but there are quite a few cars which seem to go in a straight line with it nowadays.

Yep, mostly when you're trying to negotiate a bend. ;)

As a kid I had a Corgi model of the Oldsmobile Toronado from the mid sixties. A nice big 7 litre V8 driven through the front wheels. :y

Great looking car. :y

Cadillac used the same gearbox with an 8.2l engine bolted to it. 400 lb/ft of torque from about 1000rpm.

Doctor Gollum

Quote from: STEMO on 16 November 2017, 12:59:24
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 16 November 2017, 12:39:28
Quote from: STEMO on 16 November 2017, 12:34:10
Front wheel drive was once unthinkable with anything more than 250bhp, but there are quite a few cars which seem to go in a straight line with it nowadays.
Only by using different length suspension components and  individual wheel braking to counter yaw ::)
To counter my what?  :-\
The effect of torque steer on the rear axle ;)
Onanists always think outside the box.

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: Nick W on 16 November 2017, 14:21:33
Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 November 2017, 13:36:00
Quote from: Kevin Wood on 16 November 2017, 12:38:32
Quote from: STEMO on 16 November 2017, 12:34:10
Front wheel drive was once unthinkable with anything more than 250bhp, but there are quite a few cars which seem to go in a straight line with it nowadays.

Yep, mostly when you're trying to negotiate a bend. ;)

As a kid I had a Corgi model of the Oldsmobile Toronado from the mid sixties. A nice big 7 litre V8 driven through the front wheels. :y

Great looking car. :y

Cadillac used the same gearbox with an 8.2l engine bolted to it. 400 lb/ft of torque from about 1000rpm.

All it needed was Frank Cannon.....or was that a Lincoln Continental?

Nick W


Nick W

Quote from: henryd on 16 November 2017, 11:55:48
Quote from: Nick W on 16 November 2017, 10:03:05

Power isn't a problem, as it has the 1.8VVC engine. And all of the GTI suspension parts that are necessary for such conversions.

It must bloody tramp on with that motor in it :o :y


You might think that; I couldn't possibly comment ::)

Nick W

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 16 November 2017, 11:14:07
Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 November 2017, 10:59:56
Quote from: STEMO on 15 November 2017, 20:46:51
I can't see your pictures, Nick, who are you using to host them?

I'll help you out.

Nick has posted a picture of a beautiful blue Lamborghini. :)
Well... They weigh about the same :D


Metros are just over 800kg(not much more than a 'lightweight' Elise)
What Lamborghini gets even close to that?

aaronjb

Quote from: Nick W on 16 November 2017, 17:52:52
Metros are just over 800kg(not much more than a 'lightweight' Elise)
What Lamborghini gets even close to that?

Most will be within about 1000kg of that. Just. ;D ;D ;D

Doctor Gollum

Quote from: aaronjb on 17 November 2017, 09:28:42
Quote from: Nick W on 16 November 2017, 17:52:52
Metros are just over 800kg(not much more than a 'lightweight' Elise)
What Lamborghini gets even close to that?

Most will be within about 1000kg of that. Just. ;D ;D ;D
Especially the full fat Vorsprung durch essen versions  ;D

The Urraco P250 tips the scale at a mere 1,100 kgs which isn't bad considering that it's twice the size of the Metro :o
Onanists always think outside the box.

aaronjb

Yup, sure I remember my friend with the Gallardo saying it's ~1800kg.

Doesn't feel it, mind, when you're driving it!

Nick W

#134
Made a start on the Metro.


This is NOT how to repair a rusty sill:





Especially as there's another rusty part near the front.


This is what is actually required after cutting out and repairing the grot in the floor:





A bit of tidying up, £45 and some clamps:





And run out of gas just when it's tacked on at the top, and plug welded along most of the bottom:





So I ground down the welds that I did manage to do, put the car back on its wheels(it's in the street) and went to the pub. I bought it with the arch repair panel fitted like that; I would have fitted considerably less of it so as not to need so much filler to cover the distortion.


I'll get some more gas in the week so I can finish this repair and make a start on the other side which hopefully doesn't need any work to the floor.