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[TheBoy]

TBH, like ADSL in the CBC finance models a dozen or so years back, its those that take the piss that have ruined it for everyone.

How many Linux distros or utube videos can you watch in a month?

[Mr.OmegaMan]

4K Netflix uses a fair amount, plus Amazon prime etc.. not to mention constant updates on devices..etc.

[TheBoy]

4K Netflix uses a fair amount, plus Amazon prime etc.. not to mention constant updates on devices..etc.

Yup, fair to say, that is abuse.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

4K Netflix uses a fair amount, plus Amazon prime etc.. not to mention constant updates on devices..etc.

Yup, fair to say, that is abuse.

So is charging redicilous prices for the crap BT pumps out with an average of 1.3mbps down - 0.3mbps up with multiple devices connected with no fibre planned for around here any time soon.

Back on topic. Tethering should be fine. Maybe it helps being a long time Three customer I've no idea.

[zirk]

I think its just a case of your on an old sim plan that gives you all in, 400gig is a lot though for a mobile plan.

Ive still got an old TM Full Monty Sim which can get hammered if need be if Im away,  but then doesn"t get used for months on end. Every now and then EE try and get me of it and on to metered 4g sim, problem is they cant get anywhere near a good Data allowance for what Im currently paying, so seems there happy for me to carry on.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

I think its just a case of your on an old sim plan that gives you all in, 400gig is a lot though for a mobile plan.

Ive still got an old TM Full Monty Sim which can get hammered if need be if Im away,  but then doesn"t get used for months on end. Every now and then EE try and get me of it and on to metered 4g sim, problem is they cant get anywhere near a good Data allowance for what Im currently paying, so seems there happy for me to carry on.

That sounds about right. 

[Mr.OmegaMan]

I don't normally use anywhere near this much data by the way.. More like 100GB give or take on average a month which is still a lot for a mobile data. I'd have to be glued to Netflix 24/7 to use around 400GB. Just been a heavy month data wise with everything, cloud backups etc..

[TheBoy]

4K Netflix uses a fair amount, plus Amazon prime etc.. not to mention constant updates on devices..etc.

Yup, fair to say, that is abuse.

So is charging redicilous prices for the crap BT pumps out with an average of 1.3mbps down - 0.3mbps up with multiple devices connected with no fibre planned for around here any time soon.

Back on topic. Tethering should be fine. Maybe it helps being a long time Three customer I've no idea.

Plenty of other ISPs

I dread to think on the provider's cost per Gb.  Which is why nobody offers an unlimited option any more.

[aaronjb]

Plenty of other ISPs

That doesn't help him much when it all has to run over BTOpenReach's wet stringaluminiumcopper pairs, though

(Assuming not in a Virgin cable area)

[Kevin Wood]

Plenty of other ISPs

That doesn't help him much when it all has to run over BTOpenReach's wet stringaluminiumcopper pairs, though

(Assuming not in a Virgin cable area)

Nowt wrong with Victorian engineering. Just shovel a bit more coal in.

Sooner or later, wireless delivery will trounce what Openleach's wet string can deliver to the home on all levels, and they'll wish they'd put a bit more investment in, I suspect.

[TheBoy]

and they'll wish they'd put a bit more investment in, I suspect.

Don't believe the media, or that things will be rosy if the Daily Fail and the tart from Talk Talk get their way and OR is spun off. Its all 'dangle berries', designed to outrage and sell papers. Or mask over the fact all your customers are leaving because you felt the need to distribute all their personal information to the globe.

Most localities, > 90% of the population can get fibre to the home if they want it.  In fact that's a lie, everyone can by ordering Ethernet products, but lets stick with residential/soho type products.

We have remarkably cheap, fast Internet in the UK, and that's all thanks to OR. Who else will make that investment to provide near universal coverage? Nobody. Well, not at the prices we want to pay. Other companies will, obviously, only go for the very profitable areas.


The government proposed a universal internet service to provide a minimum speed to everyone (12Mb from memory, but might be wrong). Absolutely no takers, as everyone knows its not financially viable.

[zirk]

According to that EU Twaat Boss were all going to have WiFi in every City, Town and Village by the end of 2020,

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Plenty of other ISPs

That doesn't help him much when it all has to run over BTOpenReach's wet stringaluminiumcopper pairs, though

(Assuming not in a Virgin cable area)

Exactly... I've tried contacting other providers such as Virgin etc.. I could change to them but I'd only be getting the same speeds. Nothing to gain.

BT have no plans on upgrading this area any time soon.

It's ridiculous that a mobile phone even with all the mountains etc.. can get a much faster speed than a fixed line in this day and age. Businesses are also constantly complaining about the speeds in the area yet BT do nothing. One of the downsides living in the middle on knowwhere I suppose.

Can get up to 60mbps down on EE 4G but can't really use them seen as they don't have unlimited data.

[Gaffers]

The methods for detecting tethering require inspection of the packet contents and thus are a legal grey area under current laws.  You can tunnel through the hotspot and render the packets more difficult to read although other signatures may give you away.

When the GDPR comes in it will render the grey area more black and white.  Not sure what the effect of using HTTP2 will be or if it would change anything, it would interesting to see the different packet contents to see if there are different markers.

[TD]

According to that EU Twaat Boss were all going to have WiFi in every City, Town and Village by the end of 2020,

They might have in Swindon 

http://www.getsignal.co.uk/