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[Sir Tigger KC]

So the Government has given the go ahead for a third runway and associated infrastructure at Heathrow, but given that it's got to go through the planning process and there will probably be endless consultations, legal challenges, judicial reviews, public inquiries, royal commissions etc  etc 

Will it ever happen?   

[Varche]

We have become a nation of paper shufflers and enquiries

Other countries decide on a need, plan and execute.

We will all be dead and the Omega will be a classic by the time it happens.

[Terbs]

Problem is...they just tread over peoples lives. None of those in favour are going to lose their homes, communities, etc. So...its going to create 180,000 jobs according to some. What about the existing jammed up roads, where are the houses coming from. Some sources are talking freight, not passenger flights. Surely there must be other options for a freight only airport. 

[biggriffin]

Problem is...they just tread over peoples lives. None of those in favour are going to lose their homes, communities, etc. So...its going to create 180,000 jobs according to some. What about the existing jammed up roads, where are the houses coming from. Some sources are talking freight, not passenger flights. Surely there must be other options for a freight only airport. 

Many years ago when raf Alconbury was being handed back they tried to get planning to turn it into a freight hub air/road and rail,  bearing in mind, its been a military airfield since 1941 upto 2006, the local tree huggers and bent councilors, with the help of two jags got it scuppared, If it had happened Heathrow would have had enough capacity, after freight had been removed, without the need to expand.

[Mister Rog]

I am so against this, and was before I moved to Wales. It is a vanity project, and they have caved in to Willie Walsh and BAAs business objectives. I'd like to know what went on behind the scenes.

I now have enormous respect for Zak Goldsmnith who has resigned over this decision. It's nice to see a politician who sticks by his guns and stands by what he has said in the past. The government now has a by-election on it's hands. Unfortunately it's a safe seat. I would prefer if it was a marginal to make the Government sweat a bit.

[Mister Rog]

I am so against this, and was before I moved to Wales. It is a vanity project, and they have caved in to Willie Walsh and BAAs business objectives. I'd like to know what went on behind the scenes.

I now have enormous respect for Zak Goldsmnith who has resigned over this decision. It's nice to see a politician who sticks by his guns and stands by what he has said in the past. The government now has a by-election on it's hands. Unfortunately it's a safe seat. I would prefer if it was a marginal to make the Government sweat a bit.

Seems that Goldsmith has stated that he will contest the seat as an independant, not Tory. The Tories have said that they will not be putting up a candidate. Chickens ! They know that Goldsmith will win it and are prepared to lose an MP rather than be embarrased by a defeat. In this seat other the parties don't stand a hope in hell. Damn, I was hoping for a bit of a scrap.

 

[Entwood]

I am so against this, and was before I moved to Wales. It is a vanity project, and they have caved in to Willie Walsh and BAAs business objectives. I'd like to know what went on behind the scenes.

I now have enormous respect for Zak Goldsmnith who has resigned over this decision. It's nice to see a politician who sticks by his guns and stands by what he has said in the past. The government now has a by-election on it's hands. Unfortunately it's a safe seat. I would prefer if it was a marginal to make the Government sweat a bit.

Seems that Goldsmith has stated that he will contest the seat as an independant, not Tory. The Tories have said that they will not be putting up a candidate. Chickens ! They know that Goldsmith will win it and are prepared to lose an MP rather than be embarrased by a defeat. In this seat other the parties don't stand a hope in hell. Damn, I was hoping for a bit of a scrap.

Disagree, he's only done it for the publicity, why give him a platform?  He'll vote Conservative on every other matter so let him be on this one . Makes sense not to allow him to stir things.

[Shackeng]

I am so against this, and was before I moved to Wales. It is a vanity project, and they have caved in to Willie Walsh and BAAs business objectives. I'd like to know what went on behind the scenes.

I now have enormous respect for Zak Goldsmnith who has resigned over this decision. It's nice to see a politician who sticks by his guns and stands by what he has said in the past. The government now has a by-election on it's hands. Unfortunately it's a safe seat. I would prefer if it was a marginal to make the Government sweat a bit.

Hardly, have you not read his comments?

[Entwood]

I am so against this, and was before I moved to Wales. It is a vanity project, and they have caved in to Willie Walsh and BAAs business objectives. I'd like to know what went on behind the scenes.

I now have enormous respect for Zak Goldsmnith who has resigned over this decision. It's nice to see a politician who sticks by his guns and stands by what he has said in the past. The government now has a by-election on it's hands. Unfortunately it's a safe seat. I would prefer if it was a marginal to make the Government sweat a bit.

Hardly, have you not read his comments?

he obviously hasn't ....

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Willie+Walsh&rlz=1C1AVNE_enGB663GB664&oq=Willie+Walsh&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=Willie+Walsh+heathrow

[Varche]

So if Britain needs more flights and more destinations especially China, where else would they land other than the international hub?

Boris island was poo poo,ed but would have shown the world we can still do massive projects notwithstanding Crossrail for example.

Mrs V asks couldnt they use Northolt and link it to Heathrow?

[Entwood]

So if Britain needs more flights and more destinations especially China, where else would they land other than the international hub?

Boris island was poo poo,ed but would have shown the world we can still do massive projects notwithstanding Crossrail for example.

Mrs V asks couldnt they use Northolt and link it to Heathrow?

Too short .. some years ago a large aircraft .. 747 I think, mistakenly landed at Northolt and somehow managed to stop without running off the end (thankfully) .. it took nearly 3 weeks to strip all the seats out, and a load of other stuff, catering kit etc etc, so that with even minimum fuel it could take off and get to Heathrow ... caused some consternation to the locals I believe ..

[Doctor Gollum]

It's a clever political ploy...

BAA have been badgering as they sold Gatwick knowing that a second runway there is a forgone certainty and they simply want the kudos of the extra runway.

PM says they can have the runway at Heathrow, but have a year to demonstrate that it is actually viable and cost effective.

They cannot deliver this burden of proof, so in a year's time, Gatwick will officially be given the green light.

Tax payers will have to bear the cost of not only of building Heathrow 3, but also of the associated disruption...

Gatwick already has the private funding in place to start building tomorrow, and was effectively given outline planning permission for it in 1979...

[Doctor Gollum]

So if Britain needs more flights and more destinations especially China, where else would they land other than the international hub?

Boris island was poo poo,ed but would have shown the world we can still do massive projects notwithstanding Crossrail for example.

Mrs V asks couldnt they use Northolt and link it to Heathrow?

Gatwick has direct flights to China with both Cathays Pacific and Hainan Airlines and Emirates are looking to increase A380 flights to five a day... The Anglo American open skies agreement and 9/11 killed the US flights from here, but Norwegian are basing their UK hub here with ultimately 100 aircraft being based at Gatwick, similar in scale to EasyJet.

Reality is thst Gatwick will have an operational second runway before the last house in Harmonsworth is vacated.

[aaronjb]

Problem is...they just tread over peoples lives. None of those in favour are going to lose their homes, communities, etc.

Have you driven through Staines, Harmondsworth, Poyle, Colnbrook, Stanwell recently? Those places could do with flattening!

[Mister Rog]

I am so against this, and was before I moved to Wales. It is a vanity project, and they have caved in to Willie Walsh and BAAs business objectives. I'd like to know what went on behind the scenes.

I now have enormous respect for Zak Goldsmnith who has resigned over this decision. It's nice to see a politician who sticks by his guns and stands by what he has said in the past. The government now has a by-election on it's hands. Unfortunately it's a safe seat. I would prefer if it was a marginal to make the Government sweat a bit.

Hardly, have you not read his comments?

No I hadn't. I stand corrected. But a few years ago he was very much in favour.