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[Doctor Gollum]

I can relate to this incident, many years ago I was sitting in my car waiting to collect my 2 kids from school , I was parked quite legally not blocking any dropped kerbs or entrances, a man came out of his house & demanded I move my car as his son was due home, I refused & pointed to my tax disc which as far as I was concerned gave me the right to use & park my vehicle wherever it was legal to do so people don't  own the road outside their property so I'm afraid that you should remember that in future

I agree mate but,but using a hammer is threading behaver,Dean.

As is unprovoked verbal...

[Sir Tigger KC]

I used to live on a street where parking was a nightmare and one of the neighbours used to put his wheelie bin in the spot outside his house. 

I developed the knack of reversing into the spot and hitting his bin in just the right spot so it crashed back onto the pavement. I'd get out and say loudly "That's a bleddy stupid place to leave a wheelie bin! "     

Sounds like I was lucky as he never chased me down the road in his kaks while weilding a hammer!    

He did come to the window and glared at me once or twice though....    Knob! 

[STEMO]

Just been watching 'nightmare neighbours next door'. It doesn't take much to upset some people, and it can get very nasty, very quickly.

[Bigron]

When I was 20 (yes, it was a long time ago...) I lived in east London and had my first vehicle - a motor bike and sidecar. Obviously, I paeked it outside the house, but often on returning, someone else was in 2MY" space, so I had to park further along the road.
One day, a copper was passing and I asked him about this situation. He stated quite clearly that no one person has any more right to any legal parking spot than any other, so tough titty, I have to put up with it!
Several years later, greedy councils defy this law by introducing Residents' Only parking zones, for which you must pay a fee. As the rule is that all people are equal before the law, could I, a non-resident in one of those zones, apply for a permit?
The Law is the Law, except when it suits officialdom, and this outrageous scam of charging people to park on the roads that they already own is scandalous!

Ron.

[ronnyd]

Sorry Ron mate. Since the change over to VED we don,t "own" the Roads anymore, It,s only a tax we pay for actually owning a car.

[dbug]

I can relate to this incident, many years ago I was sitting in my car waiting to collect my 2 kids from school , I was parked quite legally not blocking any dropped kerbs or entrances, a man came out of his house & demanded I move my car as his son was due home, I refused & pointed to my tax disc which as far as I was concerned gave me the right to use & park my vehicle wherever it was legal to do so people don't  own the road outside their property so I'm afraid that you should remember that in future

I agree mate but,but using a hammer is threading behaver,Dean.

Yes, but how would you like it if you were in your 70s and some bullying rsol came along and verbally abused you.  Thats also threatening behaviour mate, and I suggest you wind it in and get on an Anger Management course.  Bet you would have kept your mouth shut if there were two big younger guys in the other car.  Nobody likes a bully!
I understand you are now worried about the guy with the hammer - poetic justice, serves you right.  He probably only picked the hammer up due to your threatening attitude towards his visitors.

[Bigron]

"ronnyd", just because Winston Churchill decided way back then to steal money from a fund specifically set up to be collected and ring-fenced for roadbuilding and maintenance - the Road Fund Licence - doesn't mean that it is right or fair. Whatever government calls it now, it is OUR perception that this tax is still for that purpose and as we all know, perception trumps truth any day!
So, WE still own the roads (who else paid for them?) and the government/councils maintain them on our behalf. That is the reality of the situation, whatever weasel-words politicians may use to con us into thinking otherwise and viring off specifically raised taxes for other purposes, like schools and the NHS because they don't want the real cost of such things to show in general taxation: the motorist is an easy, docile target, after all......

Ron.

[Gaffers]

Everyone who pays tax contributes to the roads whether you own a car or not.  There are cars which don't pay VED.  Their upkeep.is paid through general taxation, like it or lump it thats the way it is.

[aaronjb]

I think "lumping it" is what the bloke with the hammer was going to do..

[Bigron]

Guffer, what you say is undoubtedly true, but my grievance is concerned with politicians' broken promises. This tax, then known as RFL, was raised specifically for roads until Winston and others got greedy.
How greedy?
My last figures are fifty thousand million pounds collected in motoring taxes, most from the RFL as it really still is, and ONLY FOUR thousand million pounds returned in new works and maintenance.
No wonder there are so many potholes unrepaired everywhere you go; and you, as a cyclist, must be aware of them more than most.
I simply feel so ripped off.

Ron.

[Gaffers]

The biggest danger to me as a cyclist is not potholes, it's a lack of awareness and patience on the part of those motorists who will try and pass leaving inches just so that they can spend more time waiting at the next light/queue.

[Gaffers]

VED is based on emissions and has nothing get to do with road usage.  My Leaf costs £0 per yes but I still drive 12k miles a year in it.  It is a vehicle to control the size of engines and the emissions they make and not directly for repairs or as a ticket for the right of usage of the roads.  You can be a city dweller and never own a car in your life but benefit from the services that are provided by their usage, thus is why it was switched to being funded from general taxation.

[Bigron]

Politicians can make their own excuses for reneging on agreements without our doing it for them!
I don't want to go into the fallacy that CO2 is the enemy - it totally is not - but it's a convenient excuse for governments of any hue to extract even more money from the motorist. In brief, though, I will say that IF CO2 were a factor, cars, planes and all the rest of the fuel-burning devices, including power stations, are responsible for far less than 1% (yes, true!) of global CO2 emissions.
Almost ALL of the remainder is made up by us - we breathe!
If you managed to persuade a significant number of people to stop breathing, we would lose all of our plant life, and that includes food.

Ron.

[STEMO]

Guffer, what you say is undoubtedly true, but my grievance is concerned with politicians' broken promises. This tax, then known as RFL, was raised specifically for roads until Winston and others got greedy.
How greedy?
My last figures are fifty thousand million pounds collected in motoring taxes, most from the RFL as it really still is, and ONLY FOUR thousand million pounds returned in new works and maintenance.
No wonder there are so many potholes unrepaired everywhere you go; and you, as a cyclist, must be aware of them more than most.
I simply feel so ripped off.

Ron.

From 2017 all monies raised by road tax will go into a fund for building/repairing roads, according to the chancellors last budget. Of course, that particular chancellor has now gone...so who knows.

https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/ved-road-tax-from-2017-0182-2060

[Sir Tigger KC]

This tax, then known as RFL, was raised specifically for roads until Winston and others got greedy.

Winston?   

Jeez you don't hold a grudge for long then Ron?!