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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #15 on: 02 December 2016, 16:36:59 »

Rosberg  is a worthy champion. He won nine races and at times outclassed Hamilton.

How many races did his old man Keke win in 1982?

How many races did Kimi win when he became champion?   
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #16 on: 02 December 2016, 16:42:05 »

Wehrlein is my bet.
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #17 on: 02 December 2016, 16:48:30 »

As they stated on the t.v ...over the three years both drivers had 3 major engine problems that cost them the championship title...so on that basis its evens...still think Hamilton is the far better all round driver,,makes you wonder had Hamilton won the title.would rosberg still have retired....,,doubt it very much....he just hasent the luck and skill he needs to carry on against a far better driver,,bye bye rosberg... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #18 on: 02 December 2016, 16:58:13 »

And he's towards the end of his top flank driving career anyway.

So go out on a high.
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #19 on: 02 December 2016, 17:11:10 »

Rosberg has never outclassed Hamilton in a single race since Hamilton joined the team. ;)
Keke Rosberg won only one race to become champion in 1982, but it was a very strange and terribly tragic year.
Whatever stats someone wants to spin to say things have been even, Hamilton would have still won the title this year if he had only suffered one less engine failure.
I would have to check, but Im pretty sure Hamilton had four failures this year alone, and Rosbergs failures in previous seasons wouldn't have made the difference between him winning the title and not winning it.
Sounds like the TV were talking shite tbh. Hard to believe I know, but it does happen on rare occasions.  ::)
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #20 on: 02 December 2016, 17:13:06 »

When in the right frame of mind, Hamilton is a class leading driver.

But he's easily demoralised, and historically suffered childish tantrums
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #21 on: 02 December 2016, 17:23:20 »

Even when he gats emotional, he is usually still faster than the others. He is a bit emotionally immature, due imo to the fact his father was his Svengali figure from a young kid to his mid twenties, so in certain respects he is growing up a long time after most people normally would.
He also has a bit of a siege mentality, and doesn't trust many people, so gets suspicious when things go against him.
It was understandable though when eight cars on the grid use Mercedes engines and all had total reliability, yet he had four (?) engine failures this season.I think anyone would have started getting a bit paranoid.
Despite all that, Im convinced he is one of the best of all time (I rate him at number three personally) and definitely the best since Senna.
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #22 on: 02 December 2016, 18:52:09 »

Wehrlein is my bet.

You may well be right. He came up through the Mercedes junior team ranks.  :y
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #23 on: 02 December 2016, 19:01:03 »

Bottas who is managed by Toto Wolf ;)
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #24 on: 02 December 2016, 19:02:51 »

Bottas who is managed by Toto Wolf ;)

As they say, if you want to win, employ a Fin.
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #25 on: 02 December 2016, 19:03:32 »

Bottas who is managed by Toto Wolf ;)

As they say, if you want to win, employ a Fin.

I rate him given the right car :y
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #26 on: 02 December 2016, 19:43:58 »

Clarkson and evans 500/1 odds.  ;D ;D

Seen Vettel at 2/1.

Wehrlein now evens.
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #27 on: 03 December 2016, 04:28:44 »

Rosberg is a worthy champion as you can only race what is put in front of you. Hamilton had his 1) off days, 2) bad starts and 3) reliability problems. With better 1) and 2) Hamilton would have won his 4th WC, 3) is racing leading edge fragile machines, which are designed to last just over the minimum requirements. Rosberg had the rub of the silver green this year, but that is racing. ::) ::) ::)

In many sports 1% or less is all the difference. In F1 it is typically worth 0.9secs a lap! :o :o :o

There is no doubt that Hamilton is the better more round racer, where Rosberg, like Vettel are much more, the 'plain cook' solid performers. Whereas Hamilton, Alonso and Verstappen (and Button on a balanced setup good day) are the 'a la carte'  Michelin 3* racers. Hamilton IMO is a bit lazy and will aim to do 'just enough' except when his back is against the wall, when he shows how exceptionally good he is. Hamilton's equal or better IMO are Alonso and Verstappen so bring them on in the team or with competitive drives, so there is a real scrap!  :y :y :y
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #28 on: 03 December 2016, 21:14:49 »

I'm bemused how you would think Alonso is Hamiltons equal or better.
Hamilton entered F1 as Alonsos team mate at McClaren. Alonso was a double world champion, and generally recognised as the best driver in F1. Hamilton blerw him away and made him look pretty average.
Alonso,s ego was so bruised that he tried to blackmail Ron Dennis into making him the the teams official number one driver, and give Hamilton orders not to beat him.
Dennis refused, and then the Ferrarigate saga unfolded.
Verstappen may well be the man to challenge or beat Hamilton in the not too distant future, but is he ready to do that every race throughout the season yet ? I'm not sure ,but we will find out next year.

Ona slightly different note - I thought the Mercedes tea management at the last race was a disgrace. Trying to order your most successful driver to sacrifice his final chance of a fourth world title shows either clear bias against him, or totally amateurish managers who aren't fit to do their jobs.
Imo, it was probably a bit of both.
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Re: Rosberg retires.
« Reply #29 on: 03 December 2016, 21:21:17 »

Agree with your last para iin particular.

Latest grapevine rumour. Wehrlein to Williams, Bottas to Mercedes.
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