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[Entwood]

Don't "undertake" ... especially cyclists ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38340125

"Mr Grayling's car was stationary in traffic outside the Palace of Westminster when Mr Liu passed it on the inside."

I have little sympathy for the cyclist and think the press is now trying to "blame" a minister for the cyclists fault ...

Never let the truth get in the way of a good headline .... 

[tunnie]

Footage here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI0dPGuP2zE

To be honest, it's standard in London to cycle down the inside. This is where a lot of the 'super highways' for cyclists are built, also look at the traffic it's stationary for considerable distance. A simple over the shoulder check from the minster would have avoided this situation, cyclist is also fully lit up, high vis vest, flashing lights.

[tigers_gonads]

50/50 imo

Dickhead cyclist should have seen the car and having anticipated that somebody might get out, passed on the off side.

Dickhead minister should have looked over his shoulder before opening the friggin door 

Total non story by the BBC again 

[tunnie]

50/50 imo

Dickhead cyclist should have seen the car and having anticipated that somebody might get out, passed on the off side.

Dickhead minister should have looked over his shoulder before opening the friggin door 

Total non story by the BBC again 

Given the long line of cars, I cannot see how that is possible. Passing on the off-side means threading through traffic which is on-coming and has faster motorbikes filtering in both directions.

Someone should have check their shoulder before opening, as they would have known cyclists would be passing.

[aaronjb]

To be honest, it's standard in London to cycle down the inside.

It's standard to be a lot of undesirable things in London .. doesn't necessarily make it right

Looking at the footage a cycle lane does start just past the car, though. Unfortunate timing..

The way I read the story:

Minister knocked cyclist of bike. Minster and cyclist shook hands and said "Well, sorry about that" and "Never mind, accidents happen" and went their separate ways.

Minister then said something about cycle lanes being a pain in the ass in london and helmet-cam cyclist - who is completely unrelated to the incident and just happened to be following - thought "EVIL MINISTER! I SHALL DESTROY HIM AND GET MY FAME BY SENDING FOOTAGE TO THE NEWS!"..

..basically.


We could solve this easily by banning both cyclists and ministers

[tigers_gonads]

50/50 imo

Dickhead cyclist should have seen the car and having anticipated that somebody might get out, passed on the off side.

Dickhead minister should have looked over his shoulder before opening the friggin door 

Total non story by the BBC again 

Given the long line of cars, I cannot see how that is possible. Passing on the off-side means threading through traffic which is on-coming and has faster motorbikes filtering in both directions.

Someone should have check their shoulder before opening, as they would have known cyclists would be passing.

Typed before I saw your link Tunnie 

[tunnie]

50/50 imo

Dickhead cyclist should have seen the car and having anticipated that somebody might get out, passed on the off side.

Dickhead minister should have looked over his shoulder before opening the friggin door 

Total non story by the BBC again 

Given the long line of cars, I cannot see how that is possible. Passing on the off-side means threading through traffic which is on-coming and has faster motorbikes filtering in both directions.

Someone should have check their shoulder before opening, as they would have known cyclists would be passing.

Typed before I saw your link Tunnie 

 

Yeah you need the footage to go with the article 

[tigers_gonads]

50/50 imo

Dickhead cyclist should have seen the car and having anticipated that somebody might get out, passed on the off side.

Dickhead minister should have looked over his shoulder before opening the friggin door 

Total non story by the BBC again 

Given the long line of cars, I cannot see how that is possible. Passing on the off-side means threading through traffic which is on-coming and has faster motorbikes filtering in both directions.

Someone should have check their shoulder before opening, as they would have known cyclists would be passing.

Typed before I saw your link Tunnie 

 

Yeah you need the footage to go with the article 

No worries 

Tbh, I hate driving inside the M25 and London with a passion 
Its got to a point that i've even turned down work off the muppets I work for if its inside the M25 because I get so wound up I end up wanting to friggin kill people 

You must either by very brave or stupid to ride a push bike in London 

[Andy B]

Grayling was sat in the back wasn't he? With a 'simple look over his shoulder' he'd have seen the C post of his ministerial car! 

[tunnie]

50/50 imo

Dickhead cyclist should have seen the car and having anticipated that somebody might get out, passed on the off side.

Dickhead minister should have looked over his shoulder before opening the friggin door 

Total non story by the BBC again 

Given the long line of cars, I cannot see how that is possible. Passing on the off-side means threading through traffic which is on-coming and has faster motorbikes filtering in both directions.

Someone should have check their shoulder before opening, as they would have known cyclists would be passing.

Typed before I saw your link Tunnie 

 

Yeah you need the footage to go with the article 

No worries 

Tbh, I hate driving inside the M25 and London with a passion 
Its got to a point that i've even turned down work off the muppets I work for if its inside the M25 because I get so wound up I end up wanting to friggin kill people 

You must either by very brave or stupid to ride a push bike in London 

I cycled from London Marylebone to Covent Garden for couple of years, it's by far quickest way to get around London. It's free, quick and generally very easy. Saw this type of incident a lot, but I see there are motions to propose vehicles turning left must give priority to cyclists already on their left.

That's the setup in Holland, cycles always given priority. worked well there was I was cycling around Amsterdam.

To be honest, I think it's more stupid to drive in London. 

[STEMO]

This is the best bit about your soot chucker, Tunnie, it's slowly killing cyclists.

[Doctor Gollum]

Car driver should have indicated left prior to the door being opened, otherwise unfortunate timing, nowt more.

As for motorbikes 'filtering' through traffic

Had it been a truck dropping a passenger off, that would have made for a much better story... Evil truck driver decapitates cyclist...

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The incident seems pretty trivial.

As Shakespeare would say 'much ado about nothing'

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

At least it wasn't Boris on his bike who got hurt. I'm sure we are all thankful for that.

[Entwood]

50/50 imo

Dickhead cyclist should have seen the car and having anticipated that somebody might get out, passed on the off side.

Dickhead minister should have looked over his shoulder before opening the friggin door 

Total non story by the BBC again 

Given the long line of cars, I cannot see how that is possible. Passing on the off-side means threading through traffic which is on-coming and has faster motorbikes filtering in both directions.

Someone should have check their shoulder before opening, as they would have known cyclists would be passing.

Typed before I saw your link Tunnie 

 

Yeah you need the footage to go with the article 

No worries 

Tbh, I hate driving inside the M25 and London with a passion 
Its got to a point that i've even turned down work off the muppets I work for if its inside the M25 because I get so wound up I end up wanting to friggin kill people 

You must either by very brave or stupid to ride a push bike in London 

I cycled from London Marylebone to Covent Garden for couple of years, it's by far quickest way to get around London. It's free, quick and generally very easy. Saw this type of incident a lot, but I see there are motions to propose vehicles turning left must give priority to cyclists already on their left.

That's the setup in Holland, cycles always given priority. worked well there was I was cycling around Amsterdam.

To be honest, I think it's more stupid to drive in London. 

To be honest ?? Totally irrelevant ...

In Holland they drive on the RIGHT with LEFTHAND drive cars .. so a cyclist on the LEFT is actually in the middle of the road (unless in a one-way street - but that is also irrelevant to this discussion) .. or in the common parlance .. the "outside" ... the "normal" overtaking position. Priority to the left over there = priority to the RIGHT in UK..... (which actually is a decent idea)   

This idiot, and the following one who took the video, were both travelling, at some speed, down the INSIDE, the PASSENGER side, and NOT in a cycle lane. IMHO they are the culpable ones as they were on the "wrong" side and should expect passenger doors to open onto pavements .. it's how people get out of cars, buses etc ..