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Won't start !!!
« on: 10 February 2017, 13:46:48 »
2001 2.6 Elite Estate...

Been left a month and battery flat. Started it with a starter pack, took it out for a spin (couple of miles) Left it for a couple of days, tried to start it with pack, no joy. I have fully charged the battery, it turns over like the clappers, but does not start.
No codes showing. If I have flooded it, how long does it take to dry out, or do you think something else is amiss :(
Thanks in advance for any suggestions :y
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #1 on: 10 February 2017, 13:52:23 »
Pull fuse 18 and crank it with your foot flat to the floor. Then go and get a cuppa. Refit the fuse and try again.

Moral of the story? Don't turn it off until it's warmed up... especially when it's bastid freezing outside ::)
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #2 on: 10 February 2017, 15:30:38 »
Thanks good Doctor....
Irony is, neighbour just came over, his car not started. Fixed his ok, can't do my flippin' own !!!!!  :(

How long should I crank it for :-[











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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #3 on: 10 February 2017, 15:38:07 »
Give it a couple of goes for 5 seconds or so each, then try it.

It shouldn't even be necessary to remove the fuse. Just flooring the accelerator when you crank it will activate "flood clear" mode in the ECU, so no fuel will be injected.

Just be ready to take your foot off in case it does take off!
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #4 on: 10 February 2017, 16:56:44 »
Been out and did as you said, fellas...neither way working so far. Will leave it again and try again in a short while, Turns over high speed but no sign of a fire. Still no codes :(
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #5 on: 10 February 2017, 17:47:40 »
Quote from: terbert on 10 February 2017, 16:56:44
Been out and did as you said, fellas...neither way working so far. Will leave it again and try again in a short while, Turns over high speed but no sign of a fire. Still no codes :(

Which one is this?

Happy to pop over with diags  :y
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #6 on: 10 February 2017, 18:20:10 »
How much fuel in tank, with it being a pikey estate?

If quarter or below, get a load more in there.
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #7 on: 10 February 2017, 18:21:55 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 10 February 2017, 18:20:10
How much fuel in tank, with it being a pikey estate?

If quarter or below, get a load more in there.

Yeah I was planning on bringing a (20 litre) can  ;D
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #8 on: 10 February 2017, 18:24:09 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 10 February 2017, 18:20:10
How much fuel in tank, with it being a pikey estate?

If quarter or below, get a load more in there.

You cheeky sod, Jamie...this is upper class here !!!! Three quarters full of juice !!!! Just had another go...no joy at all.
Having horrible thoughts of busted belt, but does not make any weird noises. Had a new belt a few months ago.
Probably me being pessimistic. :(
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #9 on: 10 February 2017, 18:25:47 »
Quote from: terbert on 10 February 2017, 18:24:09
Quote from: TheBoy on 10 February 2017, 18:20:10
How much fuel in tank, with it being a pikey estate?

If quarter or below, get a load more in there.

You cheeky sod, Jamie...this is upper class here !!!! Three quarters full of juice !!!! Just had another go...no joy at all.
Having horrible thoughts of busted belt, but does not make any weird noises. Had a new belt a few months ago.
Probably me being pessimistic. :(

Hopefully I didn't fit it  ;D

Does it turn over really fast?

Do you have a spare crank sensor?

Send me your mobile number, I seem to have lost it

I will check with her indoors when she gets home, but may be able to take a run over, a bit later?
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #10 on: 10 February 2017, 18:33:45 »
PM sent, James

I am in your hands (so to speak) :y
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #11 on: 10 February 2017, 18:39:38 »
On my way :y

Can you dig out some lighting and a mains power cable for my laptop / diags :y

Be ideal if we could use your tools as mine need sorting out after working on the BM!
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #12 on: 10 February 2017, 18:52:11 »
Struth James...its appreciated, but I did not expect you to drop everything and come over now.  !!!!!!!
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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #13 on: 10 February 2017, 20:55:59 »
Just turns over and doesn't even try.

No fault codes at all.

Plenty of fuel getting to the rail. Using software you can enable the pump and hear it running.

Good compression. Nothing wrong with the belt. MAF unplugged makes no difference. Long term trims ok.

Plugs smell like fuel a bit but are not soaked.

There is, however, no spark.

I reckon given the sudden nature of it, that it's crank sensor, despite there not being a code.

Thoughts?

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Re: Won't start !!!
« Reply #14 on: 11 February 2017, 00:12:41 »
As you know cs doesn't always show a code.
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