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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #15 on: 08 March 2017, 10:41:47 »

I try to avoid public transport. Mixing with the great unwashed is rarely a good idea.

I hope your good lady doesn't end up sitting next to the local nutter or worse still picking up a dose of bubonic plague.

Other than that I'm sure her time away from you will be most enjoyable. :)
I have the budget statement to keep me amused while she is away. Should be interesting for you, tax cuts for millionaires on the way, I think.

That has always been the Tory way.

Didn't vote for them. Never will. Wouldn't vote for Corbyn either. Where does that leave us? :-\

As Shakespeare might have said "Therein lies the rub".

Lib Dems?
Gert Wilders?
Monster raving Loonies?

Everyone is decrying the Tories for running down the NHS and preparing chunks for privatisation BUT plenty are still voting for them! You can never find anyone who says I vote Tory.

Well quite. The problem is that recent general elections are a case of voting for the best of a bad bunch. Did I vote Tory ? Yes. Am a through and through Tory ? No. Over the years I've voted for pretty much every party at some time depending upon policies and leadership at the time. God forbid, I helped vote Bliar in  >:( I would need a gun to my head to vote for Labour as it is today. But to just NOT vote ? Nope. Anyone that does not vote has no right to complain

Just as an aside, everyone goes on about the privatisation of the NHS, big chunks of NHS services were privatised and/or farmed out to the private sector under the last Labour government, it's not exclusive to the Tories. I don't believe that the NHS really is safe in the hands of any government.



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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #16 on: 08 March 2017, 12:02:01 »

Yep, the last Labour Govt. privatised more of the NHS than all previous and subsequent Govts. put together.
I was speaking to someone last week who has worked in the NHS for decades and asked them who was telling the truth. Those who say the NHS desperately needs money, or those who say it is being given more money than at any time in its history.
His opinion was that they are both telling the truth, but ignoring the elephant in the room.
The elephant being Labours PFI hospitals, which saddled the NHS with new hospitals, bought on hire purchase, with payments deferred for a while (basically until the people who introduced it have retired or lost an election) and then payments kick in with almost payday loan interest rates, on sums involving £ billions.
They were the most cynical Govt. in living memory.
The bare fact is that Labour more than doubled the NHS budget - and made it worse !

Anne Widdecombe mad an interesting statement on the subject recently. She said that the NHS was introduced on the assumption that once the populations ailments had been treated and attended to then demand would drop and so would the required budget.
History shows that the complete opposite has happened and there isn't a sum of money which would be enough.
She then said, we need to have an adult conversation about where we are now with healthcare, where we want to be, and then decide how we are going to try to get there.
Makes sense to me.
Personally I believe it pretty unlikely that the Tories want to completely privatise the NHS, but its about the only thing Labour have left to scare people with. Labour seem to think they actually own the NHS.
Personally, I don't have a problem with more privatisation of the NHS if its done sensibly. So far it hasn't been done sensibly. They are even allowing that cretin Branson to start getting his claws into it.
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #17 on: 08 March 2017, 12:13:15 »

Yep, the last Labour Govt. privatised more of the NHS than all previous and subsequent Govts. put together.
I was speaking to someone last week who has worked in the NHS for decades and asked them who was telling the truth. Those who say the NHS desperately needs money, or those who say it is being given more money than at any time in its history.
His opinion was that they are both telling the truth, but ignoring the elephant in the room.
The elephant being Labours PFI hospitals, which saddled the NHS with new hospitals, bought on hire purchase, with payments deferred for a while (basically until the people who introduced it have retired or lost an election) and then payments kick in with almost payday loan interest rates, on sums involving £ billions.
They were the most cynical Govt. in living memory.
The bare fact is that Labour more than doubled the NHS budget - and made it worse !

Anne Widdecombe mad an interesting statement on the subject recently. She said that the NHS was introduced on the assumption that once the populations ailments had been treated and attended to then demand would drop and so would the required budget.
History shows that the complete opposite has happened and there isn't a sum of money which would be enough.
She then said, we need to have an adult conversation about where we are now with healthcare, where we want to be, and then decide how we are going to try to get there.
Makes sense to me.
Personally I believe it pretty unlikely that the Tories want to completely privatise the NHS, but its about the only thing Labour have left to scare people with. Labour seem to think they actually own the NHS.
Personally, I don't have a problem with more privatisation of the NHS if its done sensibly. So far it hasn't been done sensibly. They are even allowing that cretin Branson to start getting his claws into it.

Yep...that was the general idea back in 1948.

Clement Attlee and the labour government of the time clearly hadn't figured new technology and future new procedures into the financial equation.

The NHS of 1948 is the bare bones of what it is today.
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #18 on: 08 March 2017, 12:19:15 »

I try to avoid public transport. Mixing with the great unwashed is rarely a good idea.

I hope your good lady doesn't end up sitting next to the local nutter or worse still picking up a dose of bubonic plague.

Other than that I'm sure her time away from you will be most enjoyable. :)
I have the budget statement to keep me amused while she is away. Should be interesting for you, tax cuts for millionaires on the way, I think.

That has always been the Tory way.

Didn't vote for them. Never will. Wouldn't vote for Corbyn either. Where does that leave us? :-\

As Shakespeare might have said "Therein lies the rub".

Lib Dems?
Gert Wilders?
Monster raving Loonies?

Everyone is decrying the Tories for running down the NHS and preparing chunks for privatisation BUT plenty are still voting for them! You can never find anyone who says I vote Tory.

Great hair.

I suppose I could vote for UKIP now Paul Nuttall has the reins.

Born and bred in Stoke and as honest as the day is long. ::) ::)

No porkies or historical football inaccuracies from this fella. :)
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #19 on: 08 March 2017, 12:28:46 »

Yep, the last Labour Govt. privatised more of the NHS than all previous and subsequent Govts. put together.
I was speaking to someone last week who has worked in the NHS for decades and asked them who was telling the truth. Those who say the NHS desperately needs money, or those who say it is being given more money than at any time in its history.
His opinion was that they are both telling the truth, but ignoring the elephant in the room.
The elephant being Labours PFI hospitals, which saddled the NHS with new hospitals, bought on hire purchase, with payments deferred for a while (basically until the people who introduced it have retired or lost an election) and then payments kick in with almost payday loan interest rates, on sums involving £ billions.
They were the most cynical Govt. in living memory.
The bare fact is that Labour more than doubled the NHS budget - and made it worse !

Anne Widdecombe mad an interesting statement on the subject recently. She said that the NHS was introduced on the assumption that once the populations ailments had been treated and attended to then demand would drop and so would the required budget.
History shows that the complete opposite has happened and there isn't a sum of money which would be enough.
She then said, we need to have an adult conversation about where we are now with healthcare, where we want to be, and then decide how we are going to try to get there.
Makes sense to me.
Personally I believe it pretty unlikely that the Tories want to completely privatise the NHS, but its about the only thing Labour have left to scare people with. Labour seem to think they actually own the NHS.
Personally, I don't have a problem with more privatisation of the NHS if its done sensibly. So far it hasn't been done sensibly. They are even allowing that cretin Branson to start getting his claws into it.

Yes. The old girl is mad as a box of frogs and if the rumours are to be believed probably in need of a good shag.

She is an 'old school Tory' but I do find her quite endearing at times. :y
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #20 on: 08 March 2017, 13:32:57 »


Anne Widdecombe

Yes. The old girl is mad as a box of frogs and if the rumours are to be believed probably in need of a good shag.

She is an 'old school Tory' but I do find her quite endearing at times. :y

Get in there M'Lud!  :y  ;D
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #21 on: 08 March 2017, 14:06:03 »


Anne Widdecombe

Yes. The old girl is mad as a box of frogs and if the rumours are to be believed probably in need of a good shag.

She is an 'old school Tory' but I do find her quite endearing at times. :y

Get in there M'Lud!  :y  ;D

No....no....no. STMO may be tempted though. ;)
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #22 on: 08 March 2017, 15:27:13 »


Anne Widdecombe

Yes. The old girl is mad as a box of frogs and if the rumours are to be believed probably in need of a good shag.

She is an 'old school Tory' but I do find her quite endearing at times. :y

Get in there M'Lud!  :y  ;D

No....no....no. STMO may be tempted though. ;)
Does she breathe?
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #23 on: 08 March 2017, 16:00:46 »


Anne Widdecombe

Yes. The old girl is mad as a box of frogs and if the rumours are to be believed probably in need of a good shag.

She is an 'old school Tory' but I do find her quite endearing at times. :y

Get in there M'Lud!  :y  ;D

No....no....no. STMO may be tempted though. ;)
Does she breathe?
Does it matter?
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #24 on: 08 March 2017, 16:33:33 »


Anne Widdecombe

Yes. The old girl is mad as a box of frogs and if the rumours are to be believed probably in need of a good shag.

She is an 'old school Tory' but I do find her quite endearing at times. :y

Get in there M'Lud!  :y  ;D

No....no....no. STMO may be tempted though. ;)
Does she breathe?
Does it matter?


Not as long as there still warm ............  :D :D
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #25 on: 08 March 2017, 17:05:25 »


Anne Widdecombe

Yes. The old girl is mad as a box of frogs and if the rumours are to be believed probably in need of a good shag.

She is an 'old school Tory' but I do find her quite endearing at times. :y

Get in there M'Lud!  :y  ;D

No....no....no. STMO may be tempted though. ;)
Does she breathe?
Does it matter?


Not as long as there still warm ............  :D :D


No, stop this now . . . . . . . .


How did this go from the price of a train ticket to  . . . . . . . .



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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #26 on: 08 March 2017, 17:06:52 »

It's that Opti fella.......again. If he doesn't bury the bone some time soon, his ballsack will explode.  ;D
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #27 on: 08 March 2017, 17:12:44 »

It's that Opti fella.......again. If he doesn't bury the bone some time soon, his ballsack will explode.  ;D
His gonads are swollen like mellons.

I pity his sister-in-law, with all his built up "back pressure"
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #28 on: 08 March 2017, 17:34:55 »

It's that Opti fella.......again. If he doesn't bury the bone some time soon, his ballsack will explode.  ;D
His gonads are swollen like mellons.

I pity his sister-in-law, with all his built up "back pressure"
Blow her bleedin head off if he ever gets in there. ;D
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Re: TfL must be coining it in
« Reply #29 on: 08 March 2017, 17:53:09 »

It's that Opti fella.......again. If he doesn't bury the bone some time soon, his ballsack will explode.  ;D
His gonads are swollen like mellons.

I pity his sister-in-law, with all his built up "back pressure"
Blow her bleedin head off if he ever gets in there. ;D

It remains just a dream, I'm afraid. :-\

Still, there is always sexy Shami to think about when I'm alone.  :-* :-* :-* :-*
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