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[Lazydocker]

I'm assuming by his age these are A Level exams?

[STEMO]

I'm assuming by his age these are A Level exams?

First sentence. Has baby been stopping you from sleeping? 

[Lazydocker]

Ignore that, just read the timetable again!!

I did at least 8 hours of exams in one day on more than one occasion during mine and I'm certain one day I did 9 hours. I understand his condition (brother has it) but it's good preparation for adult life. Hopefully it won't impact too much on his results.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Never had Exams when I was at school. Well, if they did, no one told me about them, if they did I might have actually gone to school that day. 

They had exams at my school and even told me what day they were having them, so I made sure I was elsewhere drinking cider that day. 

[Lazydocker]

I'm assuming by his age these are A Level exams?

First sentence. Has baby been stopping you from sleeping? 

Yes

[STEMO]

Ignore that, just read the timetable again!!

I did at lease 8 hours of exams in one day on more than one occasion during mine and I'm certain one day I did 9 hours. I understand his condition (brother has it) but it's good preparation for adult life. Hopefully it won't impact too much on his results.

It's not right, Paul, exams are stressful enough without bringing exhaustion into the equation. Of course, I have no inkling of how things work now. I sat my O levels in 1969 and went straight into an apprenticeship with GPO telephones at 16.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Ignore that, just read the timetable again!!

I did at lease 8 hours of exams in one day on more than one occasion during mine and I'm certain one day I did 9 hours. I understand his condition (brother has it) but it's good preparation for adult life. Hopefully it won't impact too much on his results.

It's not right, Paul, exams are stressful enough without bringing exhaustion into the equation. Of course, I have no inkling of how things work now. I sat my O levels in 1969 and went straight into an apprenticeship with GPO telephones at 16.
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'Fookin ell' you really are an old bastard. I didn't take my eleven plus until 1971.

Naturally I passed. .

Grammar schools. Now there is something that divides the teaching profession.

[Bigron]

Why do Grammar schools generate such disapprobation? They are there to differentiate academic from vocational students, without being in any way pejorative. In football (ugh!), there are things called league tables, apparently, and people welcome them - surely that is even worse, because where you are on those tables affects your income and life chances.
A good qualification whether vocational or academic, is equally valuable and appropriate to the needs and skills of the student.

Ron.

[STEMO]

Someone tell Opti that I went to The Liverpool Institute High School for boys, and it's because of that, that I'm such a well-rounded individual. Grammar schools have their place. Instead of knocking aspiration, we should avoid a race to the bottom.





That's for those naughty boys at Eton. 

[Nick W]

Why do Grammar schools generate such disapprobation? They are there to differentiate academic from vocational students, without being in any way pejorative. In football (ugh!), there are things called league tables, apparently, and people welcome them - surely that is even worse, because where you are on those tables affects your income and life chances.
A good qualification whether vocational or academic, is equally valuable and appropriate to the needs and skills of the student.

Because the current enthusiasm for them doesn't include the other parts of the system, like vocational schools. Those were either killed off years ago, or encouraged to become grammar schools. That's what happened to mine; at the end of my first year(in 1982) we left Chatham Technical High School(intended to provide potential dockyard apprentices with the appropriate maths/english/basic hand skills) and returned to Chatham Grammar School for Boys(there was already one for girls)

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm surprised that some/many on the left of politics are anti grammar school. Grammar schools are part of state education and free to all who show a certain aptitude. Many poor kids when to grammar school and it was the making of them. What is not socialist about this?

Public schools like Eton and Harrow are a different matter. You don't need to be particularly bright but you will need wealthy parents and a jumbo sized jar of lubricant.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I'm surprised that some/many on the left of politics are anti grammar school. Grammar schools are part of state education and free to all who show a certain aptitude. Many poor kids when to grammar school and it was the making of them. What is not socialist about this?

Public schools like Eton and Harrow are a different matter. You don't need to be particularly bright but you will need wealthy parents and a jumbo sized jar of lubricant.

Both my kids are good examples of this.
I will support Grammar schools until my last breath.

[Terbs]

Well...I am glad I got through life, brought up two kids, who are both in top jobs, been married 48 years, own my house (mortgage paid up), and apart from the 11 plus, I have never sat any other exams, apart from in class term exams. And I was 14 when I left school. No college, no university either.

[STEMO]

Well...I am glad I got through life, brought up two kids, who are both in top jobs, been married 48 years, own my house (mortgage paid up), and apart from the 11 plus, I have never sat any other exams, apart from in class term exams. And I was 14 when I left school. No college, no university either.

When we were at school, we weren't pushed that hard. As long as we weren't disruptive, we could basically sit twiddling a pencil all day (secondary school, that is). Mainly because it was known that we would find our level in society. Unemployment was not a real problem, so there was kind of three tiers. The creme de la creme (and, in those days, it really was only the best) went to sixth form and uni. The middle tier(me), did well at GCE's and went into apprenticeships or the likes. Those that didn't do so well went on to be manual labourers, factory workers, binmen etc.
It worked because there were jobs, more or less, for all, and that is the big difference today.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Well...I am glad I got through life, brought up two kids, who are both in top jobs, been married 48 years, own my house (mortgage paid up), and apart from the 11 plus, I have never sat any other exams, apart from in class term exams. And I was 14 when I left school. No college, no university either.

When we were at school, we weren't pushed that hard. As long as we weren't disruptive, we could basically sit twiddling a pencil all day (secondary school, that is). Mainly because it was known that we would find our level in society. Unemployment was not a real problem, so there was kind of three tiers. The creme de la creme (and, in those days, it really was only the best) went to sixth form and uni. The middle tier(me), did well at GCE's and went into apprenticeships or the likes. Those that didn't do so well went on to be manual labourers, factory workers, binmen etc.
It worked because there were jobs, more or less, for all, and that is the big difference today.

Expectations.

A friend of mine went to the local comprehensive. Apparently when the 'careers officer' came to the school he spoke only of unskilled work or learning a trade. Expectations were not high.

At grammar school the career's officer used the words 'career and profession' Expectations were higher.

I imagine at Eton they speak of becoming Prime Minister. Expectations were higher again.