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Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« on: 18 March 2017, 16:03:13 »

SWMBO's Corsa 1.4 has just failed its MOT spectacularly on rust hole in front subframe :'(. Told by main dealers that it is not allowed to be welded (?) and a new subframe is about £500 retail (although I could get it trade) plus fitting. As it is a 2001 Elegance top of the range model, brought by us new and has now only got 49256 miles on it (backed up by all old MOT's and a full service history) and is in immaculate condition we are very sad about this. :(

Question is - are they correct that the subframe  cannot be or is not allowed to be welded? If that is right then it is not economic to pay out circa £350 (trade) on a new subframe  plus fitting costs as car is probably only worth about £400 - £500? with an MOT.
Could pick up a used subframe for about £60 - £100 on fleabay have it fitted for about £150 but there would be no real guarantee of its condition rust wise and thus next MOT could fail again.

Could easily get up to £500 by breaking it as 1.4 engines go for about £300-350, probably alloy wheels with good tyres £100, seats etc £75 plus other odds and sods, but am not in a position to SORN and store it to break it.

So it looks like its going to the crusher which is a great shame as it is in tip top nick apart from this subframe. We have been to see a Viva 1.0SL A/C this morning, 6 month old with 475 miles on clock and are going for this. Main dealer says that one of the grease monkeys races stock cars and banger at Arlington near Eastbourne and he may well use it for that if he wanted to.
That upset wifey who is/was very attached to her poor old Corsa.

If anyone on here wanted to collect it and take it on for repair to use for themselves or to break it for me, PM me, but will need quick reply as its going on the 28th.
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #1 on: 18 March 2017, 16:17:25 »

Cant imagine why welding the subframe would be prohibited.  ???
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #2 on: 18 March 2017, 16:23:24 »

Any pictues?

That's to say pictures of the hole...
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #3 on: 18 March 2017, 16:46:46 »

In fact, most subframes are two steel pressings, welded together.
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #4 on: 18 March 2017, 16:50:24 »

all depends where the hole is and how bad but no reason it cannot be welded  :y
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #5 on: 18 March 2017, 17:18:44 »

Bit off topic,but this is a timely reminder that the V70 is due up for the mot early next month!
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #6 on: 18 March 2017, 17:36:35 »

SWMBO's Corsa 1.4 has just failed its MOT spectacularly on rust hole in front subframe :'(. Told by main dealers that it is not allowed to be welded (?) and a new subframe is about £500 retail (although I could get it trade) plus fitting. As it is a 2001 Elegance top of the range model, brought by us new and has now only got 49256 miles on it (backed up by all old MOT's and a full service history) and is in immaculate condition we are very sad about this. :(

Question is - are they correct that the subframe  cannot be or is not allowed to be welded? If that is right then it is not economic to pay out circa £350 (trade) on a new subframe  plus fitting costs as car is probably only worth about £400 - £500? with an MOT.
Could pick up a used subframe for about £60 - £100 on fleabay have it fitted for about £150 but there would be no real guarantee of its condition rust wise and thus next MOT could fail again.

Could easily get up to £500 by breaking it as 1.4 engines go for about £300-350, probably alloy wheels with good tyres £100, seats etc £75 plus other odds and sods, but am not in a position to SORN and store it to break it.

So it looks like its going to the crusher which is a great shame as it is in tip top nick apart from this subframe. We have been to see a Viva 1.0SL A/C this morning, 6 month old with 475 miles on clock and are going for this. Main dealer says that one of the grease monkeys races stock cars and banger at Arlington near Eastbourne and he may well use it for that if he wanted to.
That upset wifey who is/was very attached to her poor old Corsa.

If anyone on here wanted to collect it and take it on for repair to use for themselves or to break it for me, PM me, but will need quick reply as its going on the 28th.

Dealers don't always tell the truth. Personally I would delve further. :y
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #7 on: 18 March 2017, 17:52:22 »

Any pictues?

That's to say pictures of the hole...

*sniggers* Try Google + Sasha Grey ;)
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #8 on: 18 March 2017, 17:58:01 »

Why on earth are you taking a 16yr old car to a main dealer???  ???

Of course they're going to tell you it's knackered so that you go and buy a new Viva  ::)
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #9 on: 18 March 2017, 18:09:05 »

Only reason going to main dealer is that we have a competively priced service plan on two vehicles and have dealt with them for a number of years plus get free MOTs. Don't have any reason to think they are taking the proverbial unlike the previous dealer we were with. If I was still able to do servicing myself, believe me I would!

Don't know whether I will be able to get any pictures of the rot but will try either tomorrow or Monday and will post.
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #10 on: 18 March 2017, 18:43:10 »

If it's easier, pm the reg and I'll see what the tester put on the fail sheet ;)
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #11 on: 18 March 2017, 19:34:01 »

Corsa c subframes should be plentiful at the scrap yard I'm guessing.

Then some labour to fit it at an Indy grarage.

Simples  :y
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #12 on: 18 March 2017, 19:54:25 »

Corsa c subframes should be plentiful at the scrap yard I'm guessing.
 

Simples  :y
 

well done young bear, that is what I would do, and before refitting, clean and paint the replacement part. :y

you will also need a crane or engine support bar.
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Re: Corsa C Failed MOT - Boo Hoo
« Reply #13 on: 18 March 2017, 19:55:30 »

I see no reason not to weld it. Of course, it may not be economical to weld it over replacing it.

I'd be tempted to get a second hand one, clean it up and treat it then fit it.
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« Reply #14 on: 18 March 2017, 20:09:27 »

I see no reason not to weld it. Of course, it may not be economical to weld it over replacing it.

I'd be tempted to get a second hand one, clean it up and treat it then fit it.
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Yep....if the rest of the car is good it seems a shame to have her cubed.
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