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[Doctor Gollum]

Anyhoo back to the original question... have you found the damned beast yet? It owes you at least one haunch...

[Lazydocker]

Anyhoo back to the original question... have you found the damned beast yet? It owes you at least one haunch...

No. I suspect the farmer had it away yesterday as he was cutting all the turf in the field

[Doctor Gollum]

Pure coincidence... ask him if he'll share it

[zirk]

Anyhoo back to the original question... have you found the damned beast yet? It owes you at least one haunch...

No. I suspect the farmer had it away yesterday as he was cutting all the turf in the field

Not sure how it works out your way LD, but in Epping Forest the Deer belong to the Queen so they can only be removed by the City of London Forestry Commission, having said that theres an old rumour (or Bylaw) that states the Driver involved is unable to remove the Deer, but a passer by can have it away.

[Lazydocker]

Anyhoo back to the original question... have you found the damned beast yet? It owes you at least one haunch...

No. I suspect the farmer had it away yesterday as he was cutting all the turf in the field

Not sure how it works out your way LD, but in Epping Forest the Deer belong to the Queen so they can only be removed by the City of London Forestry Commission, having said that theres an old rumour (or Bylaw) that states the Driver involved is unable to remove the Deer, but a passer by can have it away.

It's the latter here. Same with pheasant.

[henryd]

Thanks for sharing  I think that would have shook me up a bit
Glad you`re ok & kinda proves what I`ve always thought about bigger cars.

Not neccessarily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDyeWofcLY

The design era, or rather the criteria that the car is designed to meet plays a big part... this crash looks far worse because the Modus is a smaller and taller vehicle with the absorption happening in a much smaller space, where as the apparent devastation of the Volvo is due to the impact being absorbed by an extra 18" or so more front end. Incidentally, the Modus is 300kgs lighter so will bear the brunt of the impact regardless of how little deformation occurs.

I know which car I would rather be in for that crash, and it's not the Renualt.

You need to watch it again,the Modus driver would have walked away,the Volvo driver would need to be cut out and may not have survived

[aaronjb]

Volvo driver definitely won't be using his legs for a while..

[Doctor Gollum]

It's a while since I had last seen that, didn't remember it being quite so catastrophic... I wonder if there wasn't something structurally wrong with the Volvo

I know which one I would rather hit a stag in... and it's not the Renault, and looking a gain at that, not that Volvo either...

[Kevin Wood]

If I ever find myself driving a Modus I'll have given up on life anyway, so its crash-worthiness won't be foremost in my mind.

[Doctor Gollum]

If I ever find myself driving a Modus I'll have given up on life anyway, so its crash-worthiness won't be foremost in my mind.

Good point well presented.

[Nick W]

If I ever find myself driving a Modus ANY BLOODY RENAULT WHATSOEVER I'll have given up on life anyway, so its crash-worthiness won't be foremost in my mind.

Fixed that for you

[citroenguy]

A Modus with a RenaultSport clit swap would be fun a nice sleeper.
Blowing the doors of GTI's at the traffic lights

[Lazydocker]

Thanks for sharing  I think that would have shook me up a bit
Glad you`re ok & kinda proves what I`ve always thought about bigger cars.

Not neccessarily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDyeWofcLY

The design era, or rather the criteria that the car is designed to meet plays a big part... this crash looks far worse because the Modus is a smaller and taller vehicle with the absorption happening in a much smaller space, where as the apparent devastation of the Volvo is due to the impact being absorbed by an extra 18" or so more front end. Incidentally, the Modus is 300kgs lighter so will bear the brunt of the impact regardless of how little deformation occurs.

I know which car I would rather be in for that crash, and it's not the Renualt.

You need to watch it again,the Modus driver would have walked away,the Volvo driver would need to be cut out and may not have survived

But it's not a fair comparison - A 1990's Volvo (designed in the 1980's) against a 2004 Renault that may have been designed as early as the very late 1990's. car design and safety increased dramatically in that time! To be a fair comparison it would need to be the Renault against an Omega or even the V70. I suspect the outcome would be very different

[citroenguy]

Thanks for sharing  I think that would have shook me up a bit
Glad you`re ok & kinda proves what I`ve always thought about bigger cars.

Not neccessarily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDyeWofcLY

The design era, or rather the criteria that the car is designed to meet plays a big part... this crash looks far worse because the Modus is a smaller and taller vehicle with the absorption happening in a much smaller space, where as the apparent devastation of the Volvo is due to the impact being absorbed by an extra 18" or so more front end. Incidentally, the Modus is 300kgs lighter so will bear the brunt of the impact regardless of how little deformation occurs.

I know which car I would rather be in for that crash, and it's not the Renualt.

You need to watch it again,the Modus driver would have walked away,the Volvo driver would need to be cut out and may not have survived

But it's not a fair comparison - A 1990's Volvo (designed in the 1980's) against a 2004 Renault that may have been designed as early as the very late 1990's. car design and safety increased dramatically in that time! To be a fair comparison it would need to be the Renault against an Omega or even the V70. I suspect the outcome would be very different

The Omega B was designed in the late 80's/early 90's so i think it would be pretty fooked too, a bit better yes.. A V70 would probably fare better but I think the Modus still could be OK, "modern" small cars are generally very safe and strong.

[Lazydocker]

Thanks for sharing  I think that would have shook me up a bit
Glad you`re ok & kinda proves what I`ve always thought about bigger cars.

Not neccessarily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDyeWofcLY

The design era, or rather the criteria that the car is designed to meet plays a big part... this crash looks far worse because the Modus is a smaller and taller vehicle with the absorption happening in a much smaller space, where as the apparent devastation of the Volvo is due to the impact being absorbed by an extra 18" or so more front end. Incidentally, the Modus is 300kgs lighter so will bear the brunt of the impact regardless of how little deformation occurs.

I know which car I would rather be in for that crash, and it's not the Renualt.

You need to watch it again,the Modus driver would have walked away,the Volvo driver would need to be cut out and may not have survived

But it's not a fair comparison - A 1990's Volvo (designed in the 1980's) against a 2004 Renault that may have been designed as early as the very late 1990's. car design and safety increased dramatically in that time! To be a fair comparison it would need to be the Renault against an Omega or even the V70. I suspect the outcome would be very different

The Omega B was designed in the late 80's/early 90's so i think it would be pretty fooked too, a bit better yes.. A V70 would probably fare better but I think the Modus still could be OK, "modern" small cars are generally very safe and strong.

Better than they used to be but I would still prefer a big car than small... If I had been in Mrs LD's 2009 Panda I'm pretty confident of 2 things... 1, the damage would have extended to the cabin (near to 2 feet of deformation on the front of the Omega - the same on a panda brings it right on the A Pillar) and 2, I wouldn't have walked away completely uninjured.