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« on: 05 April 2017, 22:08:28 »

Been away from media all day ( IKEA problems).

Watched the news this morning and had a bad feeling about Syria. So we in the West are jumping up and down rightly condemning the perpetrator of the gas attack. Where were we on previous occasions?

I couldnt help feeling the groundwork is being laid to now go in and remove Assad and his regime. Boots on the ground?

What do you think?
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Re: Syria
« Reply #1 on: 05 April 2017, 22:28:01 »

Trump has made a few of the right noises but lets see if he is willing to go any further. Personally I doubt it.

I hope to be proved wrong.
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Re: Syria
« Reply #2 on: 05 April 2017, 22:46:29 »

Been away from media all day ( IKEA problems).

Watched the news this morning and had a bad feeling about Syria. So we in the West are jumping up and down rightly condemning the perpetrator of the gas attack. Where were we on previous occasions?

I couldnt help feeling the groundwork is being laid to now go in and remove Assad and his regime. Boots on the ground?

What do you think?


Hmmm, depends on whether they want to tangle with Russia as well. I don't think so. Attempting to remove Assad could well end up with a very major conflict, even without the Russians. We know how determined and ruthless he can be.

"Arab Spring" - so all very democratic and nice and freedom for the people etc. How many countries are actually better off today ?



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Re: Syria
« Reply #3 on: 06 April 2017, 00:00:08 »

I think trump will go to war with someone. It's what America does best and it's good for the huge business that is the American war machine.

Will it be Syria? Not sure about that, as said there are some major players on both sides, probably a softer target will present itself in due course.
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Re: Syria
« Reply #4 on: 06 April 2017, 03:07:13 »

US is setup to fight two wars at the same time, so confronting China / North Korea  which is one and a bit is not a problem, Putin will approve, but Syria as a Russian satellite is totally different and he will be told and will behave. #Kompromat ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Syria
« Reply #5 on: 06 April 2017, 07:42:08 »

Let's not's get dragged into another middle east war, look what the outcome was after the last one.

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Re: Syria
« Reply #6 on: 06 April 2017, 08:28:21 »

That's the problem with the Middle east. Every time the West tries to make a terrible situation better, we make it a whole lot worse.
It seems to be an impossible situation. :(
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Re: Syria
« Reply #7 on: 06 April 2017, 09:12:55 »

That's the problem with the Middle east. Every time the West tries to make a terrible situation better, we make it a whole lot worse.
It seems to be an impossible situation. :(

Yep, exactly. It's a different world to the west, and, as a result, we can't comprehend how to do anything but stir things up there. Damned if we do...
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Re: Syria
« Reply #8 on: 06 April 2017, 09:57:26 »

I think trump will go to war with someone. It's what America does best and it's good for the huge business that is the American war machine.

Will it be Syria? Not sure about that, as said there are some major players on both sides, probably a softer target will present itself in due course.

Yes.....I well remember when Ronald 'insane' Reagan and the US of A kicked the shit out of mighty Grenada in 1983.

Generally, The US tends to get its 'lardy American butt' kicked when it comes to wars. Vietnam had the yanks running away with their tails between their legs. I want my mommy being their last words. :)
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Re: Syria
« Reply #9 on: 06 April 2017, 10:58:49 »

That's the problem with the Middle east. Every time the West tries to make a terrible situation better, we make it a whole lot worse.
It seems to be an impossible situation. :(

Yes it is, and it has all the ingredients of causing a major world conflict.  We should never appease evil, but we should fully understand what is at stake if "we" go in with boots on the ground.  The USA will do what they want to do under Trump, but any action should be under the flag of the UN.  That is what the UN is meant to be for, although really it is a toothless organisation, as international law is toothless, without the support of the US.

But it is clear that action must be taken against any country committing war crimes, so doing nothing should not be an option. Once more it will come down to us all taking the lead from the US and going in or not with them as I cannot see any credible Arab alternative; they just have not got the will or hardware, with those like Saudi Arabia who maybe could make a difference tied up with existing war demands on their own military.

So, here we go again, the World is being tested by a rogue state, but one that is led by someone who is not after regional / world domination, so do we want to risk a conflict with Russia over this? So, time for Trump to talk to Putin and combine to rid the World of Assad, solving a "local" problem without making this bigger than it has to be.   This is not  Czechoslovakia of 1938 or Poland of 1939, so we must not over react.   
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Re: Syria
« Reply #10 on: 06 April 2017, 11:14:15 »

The real problem is the fact that the UN is not fit for purpose. If it was, we wouldn't have got where we are with this and many other conflicts.
It has become a gravy train where people can command a lot of money in salaries and expenses to talk, and talk and talk and then do absolutely nothing.
It has become completely pointless and should be abolished.
Personally, I think Trump and his advisors haven't got a clue what to do, so will probably do nothing much. I doubt he wil want to risk a conflict with the Russians.
So far, his presidency has been a hell of a lot of talk about many different things, but he hasn't actually done anything at all, which is pretty similar to the previous eight years.
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Re: Syria
« Reply #11 on: 06 April 2017, 13:07:43 »

That's the problem with the Middle east. Every time the West tries to make a terrible situation better, we make it a whole lot worse.
It seems to be an impossible situation. :(
What if there wasn't a Middle East any more?   ::)
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Re: Syria
« Reply #12 on: 06 April 2017, 13:29:37 »

That's the problem with the Middle east. Every time the West tries to make a terrible situation better, we make it a whole lot worse.
It seems to be an impossible situation. :(
What if there wasn't a Middle East any more?   ::)


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Re: Syria
« Reply #13 on: 06 April 2017, 13:32:58 »

That's the problem with the Middle east. Every time the West tries to make a terrible situation better, we make it a whole lot worse.
It seems to be an impossible situation. :(
What if there wasn't a Middle East any more?   ::)


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Hm, would the oil be radioactive after the robot drilling rigs had extracted it, I wonder? I mean, er.. hypothetically.
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Re: Syria
« Reply #14 on: 06 April 2017, 14:49:57 »

That's the problem with the Middle east. Every time the West tries to make a terrible situation better, we make it a whole lot worse.
It seems to be an impossible situation. :(
What if there wasn't a Middle East any more?   ::)


Oil ?            ???

Hm, would the oil be radioactive after the robot drilling rigs had extracted it, I wonder? I mean, er.. hypothetically.
Probably last longer ::)
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