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[Stige]

I probably have another Omega to salvage parts from soon and as my own car doesn't have a key or remote on it, am I correct that I need ECU, transponder and keys from the spare car to plug in on my own to be able to use the remote locking from it?

Both are MV6, one is 1996 and other is 1997. The spare just has lots of nice extras like leather interior, heated rear seats, sun roof etc...
Should just swap the engine from mine to that really if I had the time for it...

[Andy H]

When i took the engine out of my 1994 2.5 V6 it took most of a day to get the engine out. If a good replacement engine had been available then it would have been in that day and all plugged in and ready to drive after a second day.

Messing around swapping ECUs, locks, immobilisers, seats and other stuff will take a lot longer than an engine swap..........

[TheBoy]

What is the last digit of the VIN on the donor and the new car.  As there are complications and compatibility issues.

Also, what do you want, to be able to remotely unlock car, or start the car, or both?

[Stige]

When i took the engine out of my 1994 2.5 V6 it took most of a day to get the engine out. If a good replacement engine had been available then it would have been in that day and all plugged in and ready to drive after a second day.

Messing around swapping ECUs, locks, immobilisers, seats and other stuff will take a lot longer than an engine swap..........

Yeah it would be better in every way to swap the engine but I'm a bit worried if I can get to all the transmission bolts etc while doing it on the ground without taking everything off the engine first.
For example BMW tranny swap is super easy if I have a lift to work on but I'm not sure if I could even get it off on the ground.

[Doctor Gollum]

Can be done... not exactly fun, but physically possible. 

[Andy H]

I did mine on the concrete in front of my house.

Front wheels up on ramps to give me(you) room to crawl under to get to the transmission bolts, exhaust bolts etc.

Bonnet off, scuttle off.

Engine hoist to lift the engine out. Engine is bloody heavy so you need a decent hoist to lift it safely.

[MonzaGSE]

I swapped the engine in my mv6 for another v6 a couple of years ago. I found it easyer to remove the engine and transmission as one unit. Then bolt the transmission to the new engine on the garage floor. And then finally lift the engine and transmission in again as one unit.

[Stige]

I swapped the engine in my mv6 for another v6 a couple of years ago. I found it easyer to remove the engine and transmission as one unit. Then bolt the transmission to the new engine on the garage floor. And then finally lift the engine and transmission in again as one unit.

Yeah my thoughts too, I havr done so many engine swaps on old V8s to have learned to just pull the tranny with the engine and its always easier. Thanks for insight.

Where is the vin located on these cars? If i were to swap their identities with the engine.

[Doctor Gollum]

I swapped the engine in my mv6 for another v6 a couple of years ago. I found it easyer to remove the engine and transmission as one unit. Then bolt the transmission to the new engine on the garage floor. And then finally lift the engine and transmission in again as one unit.

Yeah my thoughts too, I havr done so many engine swaps on old V8s to have learned to just pull the tranny with the engine and its always easier. Thanks for insight.

Where is the vin located on these cars? If i were to swap their identities with the engine.

That would be completely and utterly illegal.

[TheBoy]

I swapped the engine in my mv6 for another v6 a couple of years ago. I found it easyer to remove the engine and transmission as one unit. Then bolt the transmission to the new engine on the garage floor. And then finally lift the engine and transmission in again as one unit.

Yeah my thoughts too, I havr done so many engine swaps on old V8s to have learned to just pull the tranny with the engine and its always easier. Thanks for insight.

Where is the vin located on these cars? If i were to swap their identities with the engine.

You'd have to check local laws, I doubt that would be allowed. Certainly not legal in UK.

VIN is in multiple places, sometimes stamped in, some of rivited plates, the one on dash I believe is bonded.  Its also stored in many of the ECUs.

I'd suspect, even if it were legal, it wouldn't be viable....

[Stige]

I swapped the engine in my mv6 for another v6 a couple of years ago. I found it easyer to remove the engine and transmission as one unit. Then bolt the transmission to the new engine on the garage floor. And then finally lift the engine and transmission in again as one unit.

Yeah my thoughts too, I havr done so many engine swaps on old V8s to have learned to just pull the tranny with the engine and its always easier. Thanks for insight.

Where is the vin located on these cars? If i were to swap their identities with the engine.

You'd have to check local laws, I doubt that would be allowed. Certainly not legal in UK.

VIN is in multiple places, sometimes stamped in, some of rivited plates, the one on dash I believe is bonded.  Its also stored in many of the ECUs.

I'd suspect, even if it were legal, it wouldn't be viable....

Yeah I guess it would be a bit of a hassle to swap them all and stamp new ones in, especially the one on the dash is probably a PITA to swap.

But then again, the other car seems fine in every other way except the engine, even has new control arms and stuff so I guess there shouldn't be much to worry about the MOT either.

Such a pain all this stuff lol, kinda need the car every day so doing the engine swap could potentially take more than in my conditions, while the interior swap etc I can do bit by bit when I have time to do it and don't have to do everything at once.
Tough choices heh.

[TheBoy]

Last engine swap I did, with the help of the very helpful LFF64, took us about 8hrs, start to finish. Was the TD lump though, harder to remove due to its length.

But I had already done a swap on that car about 2 months earlier, where it took loads of us forever on a dull, wet day.  I still have happy memories of that day, a proper forum get together day

[Stige]

Last engine swap I did, with the help of the very helpful LFF64, took us about 8hrs, start to finish. Was the TD lump though, harder to remove due to its length.

But I had already done a swap on that car about 2 months earlier, where it took loads of us forever on a dull, wet day.  I still have happy memories of that day, a proper forum get together day

Yeah

What do you need to remove on the V6 to remove the engine and/or tranny? I mean do I need to disassemble stuff like intake, exhaust, exhaust manifold etc to make it fit out of the car or do I just take all the hoses, connectors and mounts off and off the engine comes?

[MonzaGSE]

All the intake stuff must come out. And radiator to make room. Bonnet off and plastic scuttle off. Then remove all coolant hoses and servo hoses and disconnect all wires. Fuel lines, throttle cable and sai pipework. And the Vacuum hoses. Unbolt exhaust downpipes from manifolds both sides. Then its all gearbox connections. Wiring and shifter. Probably some more stuff i forgot. Remove propeller shaft and unbolt gearbox rear crossmember. Unbolt engine mounts and engine with gearbox should lift out. Need to Get front of the car pretty high to allow space for the gearbox to swing down when the bottom front of the engine goes over the front of the car.

[TheBoy]

And remove autobox with engine. Else you'll have a hell of a job lining it up to get it back in, ultimately damaging the input shaft seals on the box.