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Author Topic: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?  (Read 5437 times)

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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #15 on: 17 April 2017, 10:58:47 »

I doubt if tyre shops grease the hubs before fitting the wheels.
Or a torque wrench ;)

They often do, but don't seem to realise that their windy gun is set way way higher than the torque wrench  ???
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #16 on: 17 April 2017, 12:13:31 »


I find steel wheels easy to fit on Omegas, but alloy wheels trickier 'cos I cannot easily see the threaded holes through the wheels, nor engage the screws in the threads with my fingers. I use a head torch and a 17mm box spanner.



What you need is a 100mm length of 12mm bar with a short length of M12x1.5 thread on one end. You hang the wheel off it, and replace it with the bolt having fitted the other four. Big Audis and some Peugeots have them in the toolkit.


PM me your address Terry, and I'll send you one.
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #17 on: 17 April 2017, 19:03:36 »


I find steel wheels easy to fit on Omegas, but alloy wheels trickier 'cos I cannot easily see the threaded holes through the wheels, nor engage the screws in the threads with my fingers. I use a head torch and a 17mm box spanner.



What you need is a 100mm length of 12mm bar with a short length of M12x1.5 thread on one end. You hang the wheel off it, and replace it with the bolt having fitted the other four. Big Audis and some Peugeots have them in the toolkit.


PM me your address Terry, and I'll send you one.
Thanks Nick. PM sent
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #18 on: 17 April 2017, 19:46:13 »

Dead blow hammer with one bolt wound in a couple of threads. Smash the living shit out of the back of the rim. Avoiding the tyre.

This method has never failed. Though I remember a BMW that put up some mighty resistance. All of those require dead blow persuasion.
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #19 on: 17 April 2017, 19:48:50 »

Dead blow. Is that what happened to your head?  ;D
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #20 on: 17 April 2017, 20:29:12 »

Dead blow. Is that what happened to your head?  ;D

Yeah didn't take much  ;D
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #21 on: 18 April 2017, 16:07:03 »

Dead blow hammer with one bolt wound in a couple of threads. Smash the living shit out of the back of the rim. Avoiding the tyre.

This method has never failed. Though I remember a BMW that put up some mighty resistance. All of those require dead blow persuasion.
There's a man who's never owned Irmscher wheel ;D
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #22 on: 18 April 2017, 19:17:10 »

Dead blow hammer with one bolt wound in a couple of threads. Smash the living shit out of the back of the rim. Avoiding the tyre.

This method has never failed. Though I remember a BMW that put up some mighty resistance. All of those require dead blow persuasion.
There's a man who's never owned Irmscher wheel ;D
Can't see a 19" BMW wheel being too chuffed about that either... ;D
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #23 on: 19 April 2017, 07:39:56 »

Nah. DB hammer (which is rubber). Works on everything
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #24 on: 19 April 2017, 09:35:30 »

Nah. DB hammer (which is rubber). Works on everything
Trust me, it WOULD knacker most Irmscher wheels.  I buckled one (MFL MV6 standard one) just with a massive understeer moment.

A rubber mallet would distort most of them.

If I caught any garage using a mallet on any of my alloy wheels (esp the Irmscher ones), I'd be using the mallet on their head.
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #25 on: 19 April 2017, 20:30:41 »

Nah. DB hammer (which is rubber). Works on everything
Trust me, it WOULD knacker most Irmscher wheels.  I buckled one (MFL MV6 standard one) just with a massive understeer moment.

A rubber mallet would distort most of them.

If I caught any garage using a mallet on any of my alloy wheels (esp the Irmscher ones), I'd be using the mallet on their head.

What's different about these irmscher alloys in particular? By your description they sound completely unfit for the purpose of being an alloy wheel!

This isn't a "I know best" discussion. But I do this almost every day. Not one problem in the three years I've been there.
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #26 on: 20 April 2017, 12:00:21 »

Nah. DB hammer (which is rubber). Works on everything
Trust me, it WOULD knacker most Irmscher wheels.  I buckled one (MFL MV6 standard one) just with a massive understeer moment.

A rubber mallet would distort most of them.

If I caught any garage using a mallet on any of my alloy wheels (esp the Irmscher ones), I'd be using the mallet on their head.

What's different about these irmscher alloys in particular? By your description they sound completely unfit for the purpose of being an alloy wheel!

This isn't a "I know best" discussion. But I do this almost every day. Not one problem in the three years I've been there.
Like anything Irmscher make, I would agree, they are barely fit for purpose.

And, honestly, without any shadow of a doubt, using a mallet on either a MFL MV6 wheel (not that there are any about nowadays, they were that bad) or an Irmscher Sportstar 18" would distort the rim. First hit.

Hence other methods needed for these (and, TBH, a lot of high end large alloys now) if the owner has been too lazy to maintain the car.  Also, hence, if I caught a garage doing it to TBE or the pussy cat (don't give 2 stuffs about battlebus, and the alloys look robust on that), I would be doing the same to the technicians' face ;D
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #27 on: 20 April 2017, 14:23:12 »

Ok my bad I thought u were talking bout all cars' wheels.

So these irmscher ones. If u malleted if you'd see the distortion by eye? That's quite scary for owners of such things
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #28 on: 20 April 2017, 14:26:49 »

The 17" alloys fitted to Brabus Smart  Roadster's are the same ..... you can buckle them with a med/hard Paddington stare ;)
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Re: How do breakdown men remove rusted on wheels?
« Reply #29 on: 20 April 2017, 17:49:49 »

Ok my bad I thought u were talking bout all cars' wheels.

So these irmscher ones. If u malleted if you'd see the distortion by eye? That's quite scary for owners of such things
A lot of high end wheels are like that now. Obviously, not your run of the mill 10yr old Astra ones.
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