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Re: Theresa or Jeremy?
« Reply #375 on: 31 May 2017, 17:36:00 »

What is also worth considering is how large a range of income "the top 1%" covers.

At the bottom end of that 1%, you were earning £108k in 2014/15 according to gov.uk. While I'm by no means saying that's chicken feed, it leaves very little scope to (cost effectively) avoid any tax. Other than committing money to a pension of course, which I assume is a form of tax avoidance which is socially acceptable to most.

At the other end of the 1% you have people like that racketeer Philip Green, who really do pay very little tax.

Indeed, which puts me against this whole "tax the rich business"- I suspect our Head of Department would be classed in this 1%.... he is not "rich" -  He drives a Land Rover Freelander, supports his wife and kids.

One day I would like to be in his role, be in 10 years down the road.

Is it wrong of me to think I actually want a reduction in the welfare state?  :-\

See far too many people earning what we are told is 25-30k in benefits and not bothering to work.


It shows you are a rabid right wing Tory. ;)

Just kidding......people can believe whatever they choose until the 'thought police' say otherwise. ;)
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« Reply #376 on: 31 May 2017, 17:37:33 »

I believe £20K is the ceiling outside of London these days.
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« Reply #377 on: 31 May 2017, 17:38:07 »


The Mirror is just a lefty version of the Sun. Same old crap but in left wing form to dupe the gullible and intellectually bereft. :)

No shit?!  :o  ;D 

Well feel free to substitute The Guardian, Morning Star, Socialist Worker, Independent, or which ever lefty rag you read in my earlier statement.  :y
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« Reply #378 on: 31 May 2017, 17:39:29 »

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I suspect our Head of Department would be classed in this 1%.... he is not "rich"

If I was earning 108K pa or thereabouts I would class myself as rich ???

£108,000.......that's more than 3 times the amount of money in the whole world. :)
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« Reply #379 on: 31 May 2017, 17:40:37 »

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I suspect our Head of Department would be classed in this 1%.... he is not "rich"

If I was earning 108K pa or thereabouts I would class myself as rich ???

I wouldn't..  :-X :-X

Again, I think that the perception is distorted a little compeared with the reality, £108k leaves you with £5700 pcm. A tidy sum for sure. But someone earning 25k could reasonably think you'd walk away with 5x their monthly takehome pay of £1800 (£9000), because, until you earn it, you don't necessarily think about the impact the 40% tax and 5% (effective rate) NI has on the net figure.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting sympathy for someone scraping by on a mere 6 figures, but it isn't as much as people necessarily imagine
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« Reply #380 on: 31 May 2017, 17:42:36 »

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I suspect our Head of Department would be classed in this 1%.... he is not "rich"

If I was earning 108K pa or thereabouts I would class myself as rich ???

I wouldn't..  :-X :-X

Again, I think that the perception is distorted a little compeared with the reality, £108k leaves you with £5700 pcm. A tidy sum for sure. But someone earning 25k could reasonably think you'd walk away with 5x their monthly takehome pay of £1800 (£9000), because, until you earn it, you don't necessarily think about the impact the 40% tax and 5% (effective rate) NI has on the net figure.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting sympathy for someone scraping by on a mere 6 figures, but it isn't as much as people necessarily imagine
Yep. And if you're paying a fair amount in pension contributions, that knocks it right down.
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« Reply #381 on: 31 May 2017, 17:43:17 »


The Mirror is just a lefty version of the Sun. Same old crap but in left wing form to dupe the gullible and intellectually bereft. :)

No shit?!  :o  ;D 

Well feel free to substitute The Guardian, Morning Star, Socialist Worker, Independent, or which ever lefty rag you read in my earlier statement.  :y

Home of the best page 3 girl in the newspaper world. :D ;)

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« Reply #382 on: 31 May 2017, 17:46:56 »

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I suspect our Head of Department would be classed in this 1%.... he is not "rich"

If I was earning 108K pa or thereabouts I would class myself as rich ???

I wouldn't..  :-X :-X

Again, I think that the perception is distorted a little compeared with the reality, £108k leaves you with £5700 pcm. A tidy sum for sure. But someone earning 25k could reasonably think you'd walk away with 5x their monthly takehome pay of £1800 (£9000), because, until you earn it, you don't necessarily think about the impact the 40% tax and 5% (effective rate) NI has on the net figure.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting sympathy for someone scraping by on a mere 6 figures, but it isn't as much as people necessarily imagine

All doubly true if you live in London.  :y
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« Reply #383 on: 31 May 2017, 17:52:09 »

Agreed.

Certainly in my line of work, I couldn't see how being in London added up financially until you were at the very top of the tree. My salary in Northampton is probably 75-80% of what it would be in London, but our quality of life is incomparable.

However I do recognise I am in the fortunate position of having a career where I can work anywhere. Most are not so fortunate.
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« Reply #384 on: 31 May 2017, 18:02:54 »

Jeremy has thrown down the gauntlet and Theresa has chickened out. She stumbled and stammered and said she'd rather be out and about with the people. Hmmmmmm .... ::)
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« Reply #385 on: 31 May 2017, 18:07:35 »

Jeremy has thrown down the gauntlet and Theresa has chickened out. She stumbled and stammered and said she'd rather be out and about with the people. Hmmmmmm .... ::)

I was expecting mother Theresa to walk the election. I still think she'll win, but perhaps not by as much as I first thought.
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« Reply #386 on: 31 May 2017, 18:17:45 »

Jeremy has thrown down the gauntlet and Theresa has chickened out. She stumbled and stammered and said she'd rather be out and about with the people. Hmmmmmm .... ::)

I was expecting mother Theresa to walk the election. I still think she'll win, but perhaps not by as much as I first thought.
The reason she called the election in the first place is now coming into question. She said that it was to obtain a clear majority to strengthen he negotiating position at the brexit table, but people have realised that she had a lot more up her sleeve than that. The tories manifesto has no firm figures or even a timetable, just "we'll tell you after the election". People are not fools.
The SNP have made no bones about the fact that they will support Labour against austerity and, if Theresa doesn't pull a rabbit out of the hat, there could be a horrendous coalition between them.
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« Reply #387 on: 31 May 2017, 19:18:24 »

Jeremy has thrown down the gauntlet and Theresa has chickened out. She stumbled and stammered and said she'd rather be out and about with the people. Hmmmmmm .... ::)

I was expecting mother Theresa to walk the election. I still think she'll win, but perhaps not by as much as I first thought.

My thoughts exactly.She is quite unimpressive, but I trust most grown ups to realise that the alternative doesn't bear thinking about.
She should be in a position to pull off the biggest majority in history, but that wont happen.
If Corbyn were to win, I would for the first time in my life, be ashamed to be British.
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« Reply #388 on: 31 May 2017, 19:20:52 »

"Quite unimpressive"? She a lying harridan.  ;D
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« Reply #389 on: 31 May 2017, 19:24:07 »

Jeremy has thrown down the gauntlet and Theresa has chickened out. She stumbled and stammered and said she'd rather be out and about with the people. Hmmmmmm .... ::)

Yes.

Doesn't bode well for the EU negotiations when she can be quelled by a single bearded sandal wearing vegetarian.
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