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[Entwood]

Just a quick reminder that new speeding fines came into force today ... potentially a fine of 175% of your weekly wage ......

http://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item/speeding-revised-2017/

you may have to click the "band ranges" icon to open it out to see the ranges .. and remember .. if on a motorway it can be a Level 4 fine...

http://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-material/item/using-the-mcsg/using-sentencing-council-guidelines/

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-material/item/fines-and-financial-orders/approach-to-the-assessment-of-fines-2/9-maximum-fines/

[zirk]

So more benefits for people on benefits that don't work then.

[BazaJT]

So now we'll all be good little boys and girls and adhere to the speed limits..........or trust to luck that we don't get caught

[zirk]

These days can't even afford the fuel to speed let alone the fines. 

[TheBoy]

So more benefits for people on benefits that don't work then.

Somebody has to pay for the bone idle, as nobody is brave enough to shoot them

[Lincs Robert]

So more benefits for people on benefits that don't work then.

Somebody has to pay for the bone idle, as nobody is brave enough to shoot them

You are - vote to TB 

[tunnie]

One thing I don't get with this new rule, what if you don't have a job?

My wife does not have a job, yet drives?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Wont affect law abiding citizens like me. You criminals deserve all you get. 

[Nick W]

One thing I don't get with this new rule, what if you don't have a job?

My wife does not have a job, yet drives?

You know the answer to this, they'll use the household income.


I don't see the problem with any of this; ANYONE that chooses to drive faster than the speed limit needs to be aware that there might be consequences. Those range from small fines, through large ones, points on your licence, stays in hospital or prison, or the possibility that you will hurt/maim/kill somebody. And personally, legally, professionally, ethically etc you won't have a leg to stand on.


If you can't face those consequences, don't speed. It really is that simple.

[Entwood]

One thing I don't get with this new rule, what if you don't have a job?

My wife does not have a job, yet drives?

You know the answer to this, they'll use the household income.


I don't see the problem with any of this; ANYONE that chooses to drive faster than the speed limit needs to be aware that there might be consequences. Those range from small fines, through large ones, points on your licence, stays in hospital or prison, or the possibility that you will hurt/maim/kill somebody. And personally, legally, professionally, ethically etc you won't have a leg to stand on.


If you can't face those consequences, don't speed. It really is that simple.

Excellent post 

[78bex]

One thing I don't get with this new rule, what if you don't have a job?

My wife does not have a job, yet drives?

You know the answer to this, they'll use the household income.


I don't see the problem with any of this; ANYONE that chooses to drive faster than the speed limit needs to be aware that there might be consequences. Those range from small fines, through large ones, points on your licence, stays in hospital or prison, or the possibility that you will hurt/maim/kill somebody.


If you can't face those consequences, don't speed. It really is that simple.

Well said that man & if your unemplyed TB may well be on the roof opposite your local Job Centre plus armed with his Armalite snipers rifle 

[LC0112G]

You know the answer to this, they'll use the household income.

Nope - that could end up punishing someone who hadn't committed any crime. The basic principle is that only the offender can be directly punished.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-material/item/fines-and-financial-orders/approach-to-the-assessment-of-fines-2/3-definition-of-relevant-weekly-income/

It basically works like this. AFAIK there is no legal requirement to submit details of your income to the court. If you don't, the courts set the fine based on either a "guess" at the offenders income, or (more likely) based on national average earnings (currently £440 p/w). If you earn less than average, then you submit your "true" earnings and the courts recalculate the fine. In effect it's a discount for low earners.

[tunnie]

So earn above it, just don't say anything and get the average fine?

Also, everyone speeds. Everyone. Anyone who says they don't speed must be Labour MP's 

[Andy B]

One thing I don't get with this new rule, what if you don't have a job?

My wife does not have a job, yet drives?

You know the answer to this, they'll use the household income.


I don't see the problem with any of this; ANYONE that chooses to drive faster than the speed limit needs to be aware that there might be consequences. Those range from small fines, through large ones, points on your licence, stays in hospital or prison, or the possibility that you will hurt/maim/kill somebody. And personally, legally, professionally, ethically etc you won't have a leg to stand on.


If you can't face those consequences, don't speed. It really is that simple.

Let's have some realistic limits then. Loads of NSL gave become 50, the dual carriageway by-pass around Bury was originally 40 but was reduced to 30 after an accident. The accident was due to excess speed, but he would have speeding what ever limit had been set. I'm sure everyone will have their local example.

[Bigron]

How safe is to to have to watch the speedometer ALL the time, instead of the road ahead?
On that 150% of weekly income, surely all people, regardless of earnings, should be equal before the law?
If you extend that principle, I cannot afford the showroom price of a Rolls-Royce, so maybe they will sell me one for £10? Nor can I afford the £6 per gallon to run it, so I'm sure my local garage will let me have petrol for 10p per gallon.....

Ron.