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[raywilb]

where I live there are lots of 20mph speed limits. its hard to adhere to them. even without touching the accelerator the mig even in 1st gear wants to do more . its bad enough trying to stick to 30. at the moment there is a purge on too.

[zirk]

Theres loads of them in East London now, Hackney, Bow, Mile End ect, pretty much all side roads now are 20mph zones, as you say can be quiet difficult if your in Auto Pilot mode, take your mind of the ball for 2 mins and youve got a fine and some points in the post.

Can be quiet deceiving if you venture off the main roads.

[BazaJT]

There are quite a few round here too.Apparently they're there to protect pedestrians-mainly children-so do you drive along watching the speedo and run down said pedestrian/child or do you watch where you're going and exceed the speed limit?

[Lizzie Zoom]

I must say that there is nothing hard in keeping your stead rolling at 15 / 20 mph.

All it takes is you for you to remember that you do not want to hit a child, and that is the priority, above everything else

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Introduced after pressure from parents of children living on the street concerned usually. The hazard is all the parked cars on both sides of the roads and kids can run out from between them. Its often the case that there are places such as drives or garages where the cars could be parked, but the owners cant be arsed.
The owners also happen to be the same parents who brought the pressure in the first place.

[zirk]

Well Im all for not running down children but what they doing in the streets they should be at school, and if there too young for scbool then ghey should be at home being looked after by someone.

So I run the risk of hitting a child at 3 am in the morning.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Well Im all for not running down children but what they doing in the streets they should be at school, and if there too young for scbool then ghey should be at home being looked after by someone.

So I run the risk of hitting a child at 3 am in the morning.

That's when they're on their way home from the pub, so be careful! 

[zirk]

Well Im all for not running down children but what they doing in the streets they should be at school, and if there too young for scbool then ghey should be at home being looked after by someone.

So I run the risk of hitting a child at 3 am in the morning.

That's when they're on their way home from the pub, so be careful! 

There too young for the Pub, so probably recovering from the crack cocaine. 

[Bigron]

After a few kids have been mown down, the message will surely get through that roads are dangerous places, built for cars, not kids/pedestrians.
Shouldn't the schools be teaching them that? 

Ron.

[baggers]

Children shouldn't be on the road, Money would be better spent educating the parents into how to look after children.

[baggers]

One day I set off and a kid went in front of me so I shouted "get off the road" and a parent (and I use that term loosley) told me I was a miserable get (maybe I am  )

[Mister Rog]

I fully support most 20mph zones.

Yes of course idiot parents should have some responsibility for taking care of their kids and teaching road sense. How often have we seen Mum walking into the road pushing a pram in front of her ?

However, when I learned to drive I was always taught to drive at a speed that enabled me to stop in the event of the unexpected. And, right or wrong, a kid running into the road is the unexpected.

I live on a 20 mph road, with a school nearby, and 40 or so mph is not unusual. Not just young boy racers, mumsy in her 4x4, Dad in his lux mobile, and where I live farmer jones who doesn't know what day it is. It's not as though anyone is actually in a hurry, it's habit, impatience, the vrooom factor, and the fact that modern cars isolate the driver from the outside world so much. If I had my way, it wouldn't just be 20 mph zones, there would be a speed camera on every one of them.   

[TheBoy]

All it takes is you for you to remember that you do not want to hit a child, and that is the priority, above everything else

See, I disagree. Evolution of any species has always been survival of the fittest, but because we dumb down to stupid people, we have ended up with the society we have.

And we need a clear message, if *ANYONE* steps out in front of a moving vehicle - car, train or otherwise - its NOT the drivers fault, despite the pressures of society.

Roads are dangerous places, and before little Johnny lets go of thick mummy's hand, he needs to fully understand the Green Cross Code, as being "naughty" will not result in 30s on the naughty step or other such 'dangle berries'.


I knew how to cross the road safely at the age of 3, any when I started school at 4, although the main gate was on a 30mph road, the road alongside the school was 60mph. NOBODY ever got run over.


So put the responsibility back on parents/teaching staff, not the bloody motorist....   ....but shoot the motorists being reckless

[Doctor Gollum]

Children shouldn't be on the road, Money would be better spent educating the parents into not breeding like rabbits...

Indeed...

[Lizzie Zoom]

All it takes is you for you to remember that you do not want to hit a child, and that is the priority, above everything else

See, I disagree. Evolution of any species has always been survival of the fittest, but because we dumb down to stupid people, we have ended up with the society we have.

And we need a clear message, if *ANYONE* steps out in front of a moving vehicle - car, train or otherwise - its NOT the drivers fault, despite the pressures of society.

Roads are dangerous places, and before little Johnny lets go of thick mummy's hand, he needs to fully understand the Green Cross Code, as being "naughty" will not result in 30s on the naughty step or other such 'dangle berries'.


I knew how to cross the road safely at the age of 3, any when I started school at 4, although the main gate was on a 30mph road, the road alongside the school was 60mph. NOBODY ever got run over.


So put the responsibility back on parents/teaching staff, not the bloody motorist....   ....but shoot the motorists being reckless

Shock, horror How dare you disagree with me   Mind you everyone does!!

Seriously. I know what you are saying TB, but even when I was taught road safety at school 60 years ago, when there were far, far fewer cars around, children, including me, forgot all about what the parents and school had taught us (no changes there!!) and ran out into roads for footballs, balloons, or just because we wanted to.

Children today are the same; I know from my experiences with my children and now grandchildren that you can teach and teach children again and again and still they will not do as they are told.  They will, from time to time, run into the road or simply cross when they think there is enough time to do so, and the accident happens.

As responsible motorists when driving around town that is what we must remember, and stick to those 20 mph zones because they are there for a reason.  Do 150 mph on the motorway if you like and are brave enough, but around town stick to speed limits.  It is the law anyway, and when we take ownership of our licence we are agreeing to obey the laws of the land