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Wishbones
« on: 08 May 2017, 19:48:24 »

over the time I've driven my car I've noticed that the wishbones are suffering.
Clearly the bushes are over the hill, any idea how much these cost to replace?
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #1 on: 08 May 2017, 20:09:53 »

Have they been beat up and battered around?
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #2 on: 08 May 2017, 20:10:09 »

Depends what you buy and who fits it. Front wishbones only: budget £1-600 for parts depending on source, £1-200 labour, and a further £100 to set it up properly.

This last point is critical, and can highlight other issues. Budget a grand and get the whole lot done front and back... springs, rear trackrods, shocks and bushes.
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #3 on: 08 May 2017, 20:56:45 »

Depends what you buy and who fits it. Front wishbones only: budget £1-600 for parts depending on source, £1-200 labour, and a further £100 to set it up properly.

This last point is critical, and can highlight other issues. Budget a grand and get the whole lot done front and back... springs, rear trackrods, shocks and bushes.

Far canal mate, most people on here are penny pinching mofo's quite thrifty, hence driving omegas  ;D

Off the top of me 'ed we'd charge £100 per 'bone and 2 hours labour. So about 340.

Or more sensible option. Get the ATP pack and get a home spanner twirler on here to fit them for you. Save shed loads  :y
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #4 on: 08 May 2017, 20:58:57 »

....this assuming pmacca ain't an experienced spanner twirler himself  :y
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #5 on: 08 May 2017, 21:42:22 »

Refurb your current ones. They are better quality than anything you will replace them with. Polybushes in the front, GM bushes in the rear and new balljoints. Off the top og my head - around £150, plus £70 ish for wheel alignment.
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #6 on: 08 May 2017, 22:58:59 »

The grand was for wishbones, track rods, shocks front and rear, rear track rods, top mounts, labour and geo.

Trying to prepare the OP for the reality of his car hitting that mileage. ;)
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #7 on: 08 May 2017, 23:16:43 »

Most error is to fasten the bolts directly after assembling with full torque. Do not do that! Fasten the bolts with half torque and drive a few miles before fasten the bolts with full torque and 160 kg load an the front seats.

Also cheap Material will thank you with a long using period.

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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #8 on: 08 May 2017, 23:22:43 »

Not sure if there's summat escaped in translation, but the wishbone front bushes should only ever be tightened with the car on the ground.Before driving.

To suggest driving with the bolts loose, ie not fully tightened, is nuts. Not least because summat could potentially come adrift, but also for the damage it will cause :o
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #9 on: 08 May 2017, 23:30:17 »

Refurb your current ones. They are better quality than anything you will replace them with. Polybushes in the front, GM bushes in the rear and new balljoints. Off the top og my head - around £150, plus £70 ish for wheel alignment.


having done four front suspension rebuilds last year, I didn't see any worthwhile difference in the actual wishbones between new ATP and crusty old genuine ones. My recommendation is to buy the ATP set(about £80 for wishbone, trackrods and droplinks), replace the front bushes with polys, and forget about them. If you only change the wishbones, I don't see any need to have geometry done either.


If the car has no record of other front suspension components in the last 30k miles, then it will benefit from all of them in one go; shocks, springs, bearings, topmounts, bumpstops, trackrods, wishbones and droplinks. That's about 90minutes work and £200 in parts per side if you shop carefully. Coupled with a quality alignment it will transform how the car drives.
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #10 on: 08 May 2017, 23:36:31 »

This.

But consider that the rear shocks will probably be the same age, and accurate geometry depends on setting the rear... Ergo the seized rear track rods also on the list. ;)
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #11 on: 09 May 2017, 00:02:44 »

Hi Doc Gollum

I spoke about a ride around the corner. After that the bearings should have reached the correct position and can be screwed with full torque, standing on the ground and loaded of course with 160 kg on the front seats.

Did it several times - never failed.

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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #12 on: 09 May 2017, 16:43:19 »

I agree with Migv6.

Poly front bush, about £40-£50 a pair.
GM rear bush, about £20 a pair
New balljoints **ONLY IF OLD ONES WORN** about £15 each.
Remove surface rust and paint £5


I think the ATP wishbones I have seen are substandard enough I wouldn't want them on my car.
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #13 on: 09 May 2017, 17:14:30 »

Iirc my GM rear bushes were more like £70 the pair. Will have a look at the receipt later.
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Re: Wishbones
« Reply #14 on: 09 May 2017, 17:17:02 »

Iirc my GM rear bushes were more like £70 the pair. Will have a look at the receipt later.
Trade or retail?  I paid about that for 4 (granted, last year...)
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