Merkel-Europe can't rely on UK and US !

[Varche]

Electioneering bluster?

EU army posturing?


Laying foundations for a forced by EU hard Brexit?

Eurozone expansion.?

It doesn't make sense to me especially after Europe has relied so heavily on NATO for peace for so long despite only a very few contributing their agreed 2percent of GDP.

Anyone have a view on her angle?

[Rods2]

Electioneering talk.

We are now not holding the EU back where the UK stance was always anti-EU-army and anti-EUSSR.

The EUSSR will always be a disappointment unless they make it fully democratic, which I think is highly unlikely, where that is not in the interests of the EU commission. Democracy is the key to wealth creating, well-run countries and the EU isn't, so virtually no economic growth except in Germany and even that is poor and disasters like Greece, where growth is not on the EU Commissions radar; only job, destroying, wealth destroying green/social policies. Why would growth and wealth creation that the plebs need, be of any interest when you have a well-paid, low-tax rate, job in Brussels and they can't vote you out?

The EU-army may well finish off NATO with the US and UK leaving in the end to form their own mutual defence pact. As most EU countries are not prepared to spend 2% or more of GDP it has already been dangerously hollowed out (including in the UK) where many impressive looking defence numbers are in reality little more than paper-tigers where only a fraction are operational where the rest have been stripped for spares to keep that small number going. Then if you need them in a hurry logistical problems means you can't get the 'mostest, fastest' there to be of any operational use, let alone a winning one.

Finishing the Euro where it is only a half-currency is politically impossible, where West Germans paid a major tax price in the East-West merger where the 1 to 1 exchange rate was wrong. Any German politician or party trying to put Germany in the frame for all 'joint and several' EU deficits and debts would be committing political suicide, but without the pooling of debt, EU bonds and the ECB being the EU bank of last resort. The unsustainable half-currency Euro will stagger on until Stein's law prevails and it doesn't.

I think any major EU reform is impossible for so many reasons from conflicting member states diverse interests and priorities to corporate lobbying of vested interests and what is known in Brussels as 'Oligarchy capture'. I suspect in the end low / no growth in Southern Europe will be the key especially with Italy which is too big to bail out, if it doesn't leave the Euro and EU first.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Dual purpose imo. Designed to start to prepare Europeans for a European army, and also create something of a siege mentality which makes them want to stick together and rely on Germany to lead them.
Diane Abbot has used this siege mentality to keep the people of Hackney voting for her for decades, so it is a proven tactic. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

It's news to me that they had been relying on us at all!   

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

They certainly rely on our money. 

[Varche]

Amber Rudd says they can rely on us. We are leaving the EU not Europe. Seems fair enough

[STEMO]

Amber Rudd says they can rely on us. We are leaving the EU not Europe. Seems fair enough

Amber Rudd might not have a say next week 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I would be surprised if she keeps her job whatever happens. She is so far out of her depth, she constantly looks like she is drowning.
Her saving grace is that her opposite number is a retarded, mutant, certifiable, remedial  moronc racist.

[STEMO]

I reckon Boris is for the chop, too. He's a bumbling idiot who keeps dropping Theresa in the shit.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Nah, hes an enemy she has to keep close. 

[Doctor Gollum]

I would be surprised if she keeps her job whatever happens. She is so far out of her depth, she constantly looks like she is drowning.
Her saving grace is that her opposite number is a retarded, mutant, certifiable, remedial  moronc racist.

You might need to be more specific

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Your right. I forgot to include odious and vile.