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Another air con question
« on: 31 May 2017, 19:19:36 »

The air con on my Elite doesn't work,it never has in my ownership-coming up 6yrs now-so can I just set to and remove all the gubbins and sling it or would I have to get it vacced down or whatever it is that's done to empty it?I know if I removed it all I'd need a shorter[non air con]auxiliary belt.
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #1 on: 31 May 2017, 19:22:57 »

Not sure about removing the whole gubbins.  :-\

But if it's never worked in 6 years it's probably empty. Though get somewhere who had the machine to recover anything that's in the system. Just in case there's something in there. Though I doubt it  :y
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #2 on: 31 May 2017, 19:27:25 »

I don't understand the concept of giving up with A/C without knowing whats wrong...
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #3 on: 31 May 2017, 20:15:57 »

If getting rid of the system youll lower your asking price if you choose to pass it on

Disconnect the whole lot but leave the compressor in place (with bolt connector still on and fold over the pipes to stop dirt ingress.

or work out the correct size serpentine belt and remove the compressor
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #4 on: 31 May 2017, 20:28:42 »

Air con to me either works or it doesn't.In this case it's the latter,but as a non-essential spending any money finding out why is a no-no.Likewise spending money to make sure the system is empty is also a no-no so in that case everything would stay in place,hence the question of whether I could just set to and bin all the under bonnet gubbins.
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #5 on: 31 May 2017, 20:30:18 »

I don't understand the concept of giving up with A/C without knowing whats wrong...

Got to agree with TB. I've just regassed the old girl. And having it is soooooo nice  :y
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #6 on: 31 May 2017, 20:35:59 »

Plus if it has a leak of some form it could be as simple as the HP valve.

But I get what you mean about not wanting to spend on it cos the system is complex and it could be simple to fix. Or expensive. Depending on the issue.
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #7 on: 31 May 2017, 22:54:46 »

The air con on my Elite doesn't work,it never has in my ownership-coming up 6yrs now-so can I just set to and remove all the gubbins and sling it or would I have to get it vacced down or whatever it is that's done to empty it?I know if I removed it all I'd need a shorter[non air con]auxiliary belt.

Depends why it's not working, but if it has any gas in it needs to be removed properly. You might find it's a cheap easy fix and the Omega climate system is appalling without working aircon. How do you keep the windows demisted?
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #8 on: 31 May 2017, 23:15:07 »

Plus if it has a leak of some form it could be as simple as the HP valve.

But I get what you mean about not wanting to spend on it cos the system is complex and it could be simple to fix. Or expensive. Depending on the issue.

HP Valve? Had mine regassed last summer, lasted six week. Had it regassed again, had lost over 50% in six weeks. Any ideas?
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #9 on: 31 May 2017, 23:18:16 »

some national chains are doing recharges for 'no fee if not cooler' so you have nothing to lose.  ATS and kwickfart spring to mind.  kwickfart paid up when the failed miserably to properly recharge mine, F1 did it in the end and got it right.
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #10 on: 31 May 2017, 23:18:36 »

You have a leak 👍

Did they put dye in the system? If so leaks should be fairly obvious with uv torch and yellow glasses (though not strictly needed).

Check the main suspects like consensor compressor ports receiver dryer etc
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #11 on: 01 June 2017, 00:08:23 »

No harm in leaving it in place. Removal of entire system is more expensive than fixing what is either the condenser-£49 plus some labour, the valves-£10 plus ten minutes and a cuppa, or simply a regas £40?...

Three choices...

1. Spend £150 and have it working.
2. Leave everything in place and not worry about it.
3. Spend about £800 having the whole system removed... the evaporator is behind the dash.

1 or 2 are the only viable options, but consider that aircon is just as useful in the winter ;)
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #12 on: 01 June 2017, 10:49:04 »

Exactly. Nothing much to be achieved by taking it out, and it costs less than the price of a tank of fuel to re-gas it. As said, the climate system has to run full chat without air con just to keep the windows clear in damp weather.
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #13 on: 01 June 2017, 18:18:53 »

some national chains are doing recharges for 'no fee if not cooler' so you have nothing to lose.  ATS and kwickfart spring to mind.  kwickfart paid up when the failed miserably to properly recharge mine, F1 did it in the end and got it right.
I wouldn't trust either of those mongrels to check the tyre pressures.

Unless the system has a catastrophic hole in it, a 15min hold test is going to find 3 parts of SFA, so you'll always get sufficient refrigerant in there for long enough to pass their guarantee, assuming the operator actually did the course.
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Re: Another air con question
« Reply #14 on: 01 June 2017, 18:30:26 »

Unless the system has a catastrophic hole in it, a 15min hold test is going to find 3 parts of SFA, so you'll always get sufficient refrigerant in there for long enough to pass their guarantee, assuming the operator actually did the course.

with kwick fit i made the mistake of going out while it was refilling instead of watching, thinking i'd get back in time.  when i came back they said all done but i need to check it was working. which i thought was a bit odd.    also no printout of the amount injected.  luckily i had my digital thermometer with me, air was same as ambient.  straight up they said they would refund.  2 days later took it to f1 who filled it no problem and has been ice cold ever since, about 2 months so far...£45 I recall.
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