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Labour, with with a minority.

3 (8.3%)

Labour majority.

1 (2.8%)

Conservative with minority

7 (19.4%)

Conservative with majority.

22 (61.1%)

Monster Raving Looney Party

3 (8.3%)

Total Members Voted: 30

Voting closed: 09 June 2017, 10:40:51

[Sir Tigger KC]

I think the Tories will win with a slightly increased majority. 

I have to say though that I don't think I've ever been so worried at the outcome of a General Election and the prospects of the country thereafter.    The thought of Corbyn and McDonnell in Downing Street makes me feel physically ill. 

[STEMO]

I think the Tories will win with a slightly increased majority. 

I have to say though that I don't think I've ever been so worried at the outcome of a General Election and the prospects of the country thereafter.    The thought of Corbyn and McDonnell in Downing Street makes me feel physically ill. 

Fear not, Sir Tig, it will not happen. I think a Tory win is almost a certainty. Have a look here:

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-seats

[tunnie]

I think the Tories will win with a slightly increased majority. 

I have to say though that I don't think I've ever been so worried at the outcome of a General Election and the prospects of the country thereafter.  The thought of Corbyn and McDonnell in Downing Street makes me feel physically ill. 

Snap.

But see my earlier post on numbers for new voters, gives me some confidence all this new hype won't have much impact over-all.

[Rods2]

I personally can't see anything other than a Conservative majority with more seats than now but not the landslide predicted 6 weeks ago. A very poor Conservative campaign has ensured that, which has also again highlighted May's serial failure as a politician. Her poor judgement does not bode well for a good outcome to the Brexit negotiations.

IMO being a "bloody difficult woman" (or man) and a good politician is an oxymoron!

[Doctor Gollum]

I think the Tories will win with a slightly increased majority. 

I have to say though that I don't think I've ever been so worried at the outcome of a General Election and the prospects of the country thereafter.    The thought of Corbyn and McDonnell in Downing Street makes me feel physically ill. 

Fear not, Sir Tig, it will not happen. I think a Tory win is almost a certainty. Have a look here:

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-seats

What were they suggesting the day before the Brexit vote?

[STEMO]

I think the Tories will win with a slightly increased majority. 

I have to say though that I don't think I've ever been so worried at the outcome of a General Election and the prospects of the country thereafter.    The thought of Corbyn and McDonnell in Downing Street makes me feel physically ill. 

Fear not, Sir Tig, it will not happen. I think a Tory win is almost a certainty. Have a look here:

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-seats

What were they suggesting the day before the Brexit vote?

There is that....

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Corbyn might do well enough  for him to decide to stay as Labour leader after the election. In that scenario I think there is a good chance the party will actually split in two again. Bring it on. 

[STEMO]

If/when the tories win, we will probably witness the death throes of the NHS and a drop in educational standards. Are we all looking forward to that?

[tunnie]

Don't know why but I'm really interested in the numbers in this election, much hype has been put in BBC and on social media of an 'extra one million voters' which are, apparently, going to swing this election. But the BBC has listed the top 10 seats which have seen the biggest increases. I've gone through and look at who holds these seats and by how much:

Leeds NW - LIB (36%) vs 30% Labour
Bethnal Green and Bow - LAB 61%
Poplar & Limehouse - LAB 58%
Leeds Central - LAB 55%
Wolverhampton SE - LAB 55%
Bristol West - LAB 35%, Green 26%.
Brighton Pavilion - Green 41%, LAB 27
Canterbury - CON 42.9%, LAB 24%
Tooting - LAB 55%
Bath - CON 37%, LIB 29%, LAB 13%

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40178571

6 of the 10 are already safe Labour seats, so increase of 5/10/15%  in these seats makes sod all difference to the election. (assuming LAB support) - But for the ones Labour don't hold: Canterbury had 53k turn out, BBC reports 10% increase here. So 5.3k extra votes, but the majority by the CON's is  9.7k. (this is without a UKIP switch to CON)

Similar with Brighton, which is a heavy green hold and increase could not alter the green majority. (assuming green's keep their vote)

So Labour could only take from what I can see Leeds North West, these extra votes don't appear to be in the seats Labour need to save. 

In addition to this, i've been looking at the YouGov poll, which makes biggest view of a hung parliament.

https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2017/?belboon=031b3908984b04d39d00589b,4711849,subid=55199X1529169X2b85ec6bf08bf65ef5371f664c24ab89

Just randomly checking labour swing seats, they are over-coming some huge majorities. 

I wonder if it was all a ploy to get Conservative voters out

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Why on earth would you say that ? ! 
Labour did more privatising of the NHS than the Tories have ever done. My view on it is that it is broken,unfixable ,hugely wasteful and needs to start again with a clean sheet of paper. However, no politician has the balls to reform it properly, and certainly wouldn't dare to get rid of it or privatise it.
A drop in educational standards by reintroducing Grammar schools across the country ? They were the main tool for social mobility for bright working class kids in the post war period. Abolished by socialist dogma which dictates that we are all the same and should all be taught the same.
It is a long running experiment which resulted in abject failure decades ago.

[STEMO]

Why on earth would you say that ? ! 
Labour did more privatising of the NHS than the Tories have ever done. My view on it is that it is broken,unfixable ,hugely wasteful and needs to start again with a clean sheet of paper. However, no politician has the balls to reform it properly, and certainly wouldn't dare to get rid of it or privatise it.
A drop in educational standards by reintroducing Grammar schools across the country ? They were the main tool for social mobility for bright working class kids in the post war period. Abolished by socialist dogma which dictates that we are all the same and should all be taught the same.
It is a long running experiment which resulted in abject failure decades ago.

Arguing with that would turn into a labour v tory thing, with diametrically opposed views. I'm not going there. You've had recent, first hand experience of the NHS, I have a daily experience of what's happening in schools.

[omegod]

If/when the tories win, we will probably witness the death throes of the NHS and a drop in educational standards. Are we all looking forward to that?

As an NHS worker I believe you 100% Ste it's a gonner if they remain, I cannot honestly believe the ignorance around the whole country on that topic.

As an aside I've handed out several food vouchers today to once proud families who are literally on the breadline and have absolutely no other option to feed their children. The Tory's will just grind the working classes further into the dust should they remain, as is their absolute intention.

I'll see you all on the other side, whatever colour it is

[Mister Rog]

If/when the tories win, we will probably witness the death throes of the NHS and a drop in educational standards. Are we all looking forward to that?

As an NHS worker I believe you 100% Ste it's a gonner if they remain, I cannot honestly believe the ignorance around the whole country on that topic.

As an aside I've handed out several food vouchers today to once proud families who are literally on the breadline and have absolutely no other option to feed their children. The Tory's will just grind the working classes further into the dust should they remain, as is their absolute intention.

I'll see you all on the other side, whatever colour it is

Really quite an absurd statement. I mean, why ? What would they gain ? Who would benefit ? Even in the worst days of medieval feudalism it was in the interest of the rulers to have workers that could work and produce. Was this something just picked out of the pages of Socialist Worker magazine or something ?     Ah well . . . . as you say, on the other side 





 

[TD]

Ive voted, imo, what the result might be....as we all know what the polls predicated for the outcome of the referendum and what happened at that vote 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

My experience of the NHS started almost 20years ago and continued until recently. I saw the start of a sharp decline under labour and it hasn't stopped since. Ime it is a lot less to do with funding and much more to do with the vested interests (from top to bottom) who get a living from it.
Remember Mid Staffs and the many other similar scandals which happened under labour ?
No political party will put the NHS right. They will just keep chucking even more of our money at it, and try to outdo each other, in how much they can waste on it. That wont begin to solve its problems though.
I cant imagine you believe the last labour govt. did a great job sorting the problems in education.
Besides all that, the two most important things for the next few years are Brexit and the economy. I don't think anyone could objectively argue that labour can be trusted with either of those.