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General election, anyone?
« on: 09 June 2017, 06:20:27 »

This time let's have a much longer run up, say, 6 months. Then we can all talk shite debate our positions well into the winter months. Lovely.  ;D
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Re: General election, anyone?
« Reply #1 on: 09 June 2017, 06:37:52 »

Should get wee Jimmys neck wound in a bit anyway!
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« Reply #2 on: 09 June 2017, 07:52:15 »

Thank god for the Irish and the Scots, eh? Without them Mrs May would have been (more) screwed.  ;D
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« Reply #3 on: 09 June 2017, 08:11:49 »

What a mess.

Doesn't bode well for Brexit but then I believed that the kingmakers only put May in for a stop gap until they could reverse the wrong result of Brexit.

Who will they put in her place? A staunch Remainer?

Indy ref 2 is toast
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« Reply #4 on: 09 June 2017, 08:20:55 »

One consolation is that some big names like Alex Salmond, Angus Robertson and Nick Clegg have gone.  :y
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« Reply #5 on: 09 June 2017, 08:51:50 »

Boris for PM?  ::)  :)
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« Reply #6 on: 09 June 2017, 09:59:38 »

Always 'dismayed' when Theresa May won the Conservative leadership contest. IMO Theresa May is a light-weight serial loser as a politician, who made a complete mess of running the Home Office. What is her vision for the UK? There isn't one. >:( >:( >:(

I have always disliked her since she stupidly labeled her own party 'the nasty party'. I have always considered her as 'two gun, shoot both feet May' since then. She has none, absolutely zero, vision, business, sales, marketing or common sense, whatsoever, which showed in her car crash manifesto and as for not engaging in any leadership debate to sell her brand and vision, unbelievable, that's the sort of fundamental mistake you make when you have no vision, business, sales, marketing or common sense! >:( >:( >:(

IMO anything beyond a junior administrator position means Theresa May was over promoted and out of her depth. Being a 'bloody difficult person' is a hopeless attribute for being able to manage people and situations and applying any useful skill to get successful outcomes. :( :( :( Bloody awkward people tend to get marginalized as 'the team' ignores and works around them. :-[

Her grasp of political history is also poor as the history of Conservatives calling unnecessary elections is abysmal with Ted Heath's disaster a classic example! IMO like that fool, she has done great damage to the Conservative party and this country in a short period of time. :( :( :(
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« Reply #7 on: 09 June 2017, 10:52:18 »

She turned off the young, and as I stated in another thread, the students at University of Kent in Canterbury were queuing to get their vote in yesterday.

Surprise, surprise then that the Canterbury seat was lost to Labour after the Conservative MP Julian Brazier, a well known character in these parts, had held the seat for 30 years:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-40212652
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« Reply #8 on: 09 June 2017, 11:00:18 »

I suspect a lot was to do with the extreme 'anti anybody but labour' peddling that was hitting social media, and had so much miss truth in most of it, it was frightening.

What it does show is that even Ms May can beat Corbyn without even bothering to try.......
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« Reply #9 on: 09 June 2017, 11:07:38 »

I suspect a lot was to do with the extreme 'anti anybody but labour' peddling that was hitting social media, and had so much miss truth in most of it, it was frightening.

What it does show is that even Ms May can beat Corbyn without even bothering to try.......
That's not what it shows me. It shows me that quite a lot of people in this country have got much better things to worry about than Brexit. She banged on about it as if it was the only show in town, but putting food on the table and being able to pay your bills trumps Brexit every time.
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« Reply #10 on: 09 June 2017, 11:12:19 »

I suspect a lot was to do with the extreme 'anti anybody but labour' peddling that was hitting social media, and had so much miss truth in most of it, it was frightening.

What it does show is that even Ms May can beat Corbyn without even bothering to try.......
That's not what it shows me. It shows me that quite a lot of people in this country have got much better things to worry about than Brexit. She banged on about it as if it was the only show in town, but putting food on the table and being able to pay your bills trumps Brexit every time.

If you had seen the constant one sided drivel on social media, I am not surprised that the younger generation voted the way they did.

A classic was the 'taking away free school meals for the children', when the fact was it was going back to the standard means tested approach that has worked well fro the last 50 years and committing a breakfast for all.

The general populous are very easily sold (as Brexit proved!).

The harsh reality is that I suspect the next five years will be totally taken up with Brexit and trade deals.
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« Reply #11 on: 09 June 2017, 11:16:08 »

In the words of private Frazer, aye we're doooooooomed ;D
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« Reply #12 on: 09 June 2017, 11:22:45 »

I suspect a lot was to do with the extreme 'anti anybody but labour' peddling that was hitting social media, and had so much miss truth in most of it, it was frightening.

What it does show is that even Ms May can beat Corbyn without even bothering to try.......
That's not what it shows me. It shows me that quite a lot of people in this country have got much better things to worry about than Brexit. She banged on about it as if it was the only show in town, but putting food on the table and being able to pay your bills trumps Brexit every time.

If you had seen the constant one sided drivel on social media, I am not surprised that the younger generation voted the way they did.

A classic was the 'taking away free school meals for the children', when the fact was it was going back to the standard means tested approach that has worked well fro the last 50 years and committing a breakfast for all.

The general populous are very easily sold (as Brexit proved!).

The harsh reality is that I suspect the next five years will be totally taken up with Brexit and trade deals.
This 'breakfast for all children', who was going to pay for that? Staff don't start till 8:40, so would they have to 'volunteer' to come in early, without pay? Would the kitchen staff have to do the same? No. You would have to somehow get extra staff in just for breakfast. A non-starter.
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« Reply #13 on: 09 June 2017, 11:27:39 »

Everyone is acting as if Corbyn won..he didn't. The tories can still govern, just not with the same smugness they could before.
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« Reply #14 on: 09 June 2017, 11:32:15 »

He has however cemented his own position in Labour. The worst possible outcome for most Labour MP,s.
He wont bother with a manifesto next time, just hand out copies of Das Kapital. There are still interesting times ahead within the Labour party I think.
May really is damaged goods now though. She will carry on, I don't see any other option for the good of the country, but she will be gone before the next election.
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