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[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

There is so much waffle flying around in the media at the moment, but it all came to two things.
Corbyn promised young / stupid/ gullible people the moon on a stick, so quite a few of them voted for him.
The Tories were arrogant enough to believe they could hit retired people (their core voters) quite hard and still rely on their votes.
Quite a few of these stayed at home and didnt vote in protest at this.
Throw the return of fox hunting into the equation just to alienate a whole load more people,and you could almost wonder how the Tories actually did as well as they did.
If the Queens speech drops the abolition of the triple lock, the so called dementia tax, means tested winter fuel allowance and return of fox hunting - the Tories could probably call another election next week and get a healthy majority.
No-one has the stomach for that though, so it aint going to happen.

P.S Sir Tigger - The Express ? !! How very dare you. 

[STEMO]

There is so much waffle flying around in the media at the moment, but it all came to two things.
Corbyn promised young / stupid/ gullible people the moon on a stick, so quite a few of them voted for him.
The Tories were arrogant enough to believe they could hit retired people (their core voters) quite hard and still rely on their votes.
Quite a few of these stayed at home and didnt vote in protest at this.
Throw the return of fox hunting into the equation just to alienate a whole load more people,and you could almost wonder how the Tories actually did as well as they did.
If the Queens speech drops the abolition of the triple lock, the so called dementia tax, means tested winter fuel allowance and return of fox hunting - the Tories could probably call another election next week and get a healthy majority.
No-one has the stomach for that though, so it aint going to happen.

P.S Sir Tigger - The Express ? !! How very dare you. 

Yes..probably....and if we reran the referendum vote, we wouldn't be leaving.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The one party which campaigned on an anti Brexit manifesto didn't do very well did they ? 

[TheBoy]

The one party which campaigned on an anti Brexit manifesto didn't do very well did they ? 

Well, they did a lot better than last time

I think most people against Brexit - probably now the majority - know that democracy has spoken. Right or wrong, it now has to happen

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

They did a little better, but hardly a resurgence. I don't know why it might now be a majority against Brexit tbh. A lot of  "don't knows" were very influenced by the things Osborne and Cameron said, many of which subsequently proved to be completely untrue.
Anyway, as you said, most people accept the democratic decision and its going to happen.
Personally,I doubt its going to be softened / watered down/ diluted ,whichever phrase is currently in fashion - but time will tell.

[Doctor Gollum]

They can't afford to water it down. Besides, even if they negotiate nothing, we still have World Trade guidelines to fall back on... Which might make negotiations somewhat moot

[STEMO]

They did a little better, but hardly a resurgence. I don't know why it might now be a majority against Brexit tbh. A lot of  "don't knows" were very influenced by the things Osborne and Cameron said, many of which subsequently proved to be completely untrue.
Anyway, as you said, most people accept the democratic decision and its going to happen.
Personally,I doubt its going to be softened / watered down/ diluted ,whichever phrase is currently in fashion - but time will tell.

I think it will be watered down, personally.
I've been looking for your 'landslide' post, but it seems to be eluding me for now. 

[Rods2]

The last survey I saw where people were asked how they would vote again if there was a new referendum tomorrow, over 60% who said they would vote, would vote to leave. The most common reason for changing their mind from originally playing safe and voting remain, due to project fear. As that didn't happen they would now vote to leave.

[STEMO]

The last survey I saw where people were asked how they would vote again if there was a new referendum tomorrow, over 60% who said they would vote, would vote to leave. The most common reason for changing their mind from originally playing safe and voting remain, due to project fear. As that didn't happen they would now vote to leave.

That surprises me.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Lots of 'Remainer' MP's and leftie media claiming that the election was about BREXIT and that result was a rejection of 'Hard' BREXIT. 

Funny thing this, I thought BREXIT was largely sidelined by JC's successful domination of the conversation in favour of public services.  People didn't vote Labour for a 'Soft' BREXIT, they voted Labour for a massive government handout! 

The irony of this is that post election, both JC and the odious John McDonnell have both said that Britain has to leave the single market.  Although Barry Gardiner has said today that Britain could remain in a reformed single market!    Where the hell has he been for the last 2 or 3 years!   

[Mister Rog]

The last survey I saw where people were asked how they would vote again if there was a new referendum tomorrow, over 60% who said they would vote, would vote to leave. The most common reason for changing their mind from originally playing safe and voting remain, due to project fear. As that didn't happen they would now vote to leave.

I'm always a bit suspicious about "surveys", I mean I could go down the pub tonight and do a "survey". However, I voted Leave and still believe that to be the right road ahead, But oh dear, all the aftermath, the "what ifs" the doubters, those trying to change the result, the political manoeuvring blah blah. If there was another referendum, the choice being 1: "do it and get on with it" or 2: "Do it, Well maybe possibly if this or that" or 3: "No, stay in". I would vote 3 instead of 2.

[Viral_Jim]

What is also worth considering is the very high turnout amongst the young in this GE, which did have a significant effect on the result. This is something that has never happened before. Yea there was significant engagement over the Brexit referendum, but it did not affect the result the way the majority of the young wanted.

the GE has demonstrated that the young vote does have some sway in the uk and this can only increase youth voter engagement going forward.

Personally, I don't want a second referendum, because it will be a re-run of the wall to wall bullish!t on both sides that the last one was (Project Fear vs £350m/wk). What I would like to see is a vote once the deal is negotiated with 3 options: remain in the eu, take the offered deal, or take WTO tariffs. This is the ONLY way people can make a truly informed choice about the future of the uk. It means brexiteers can vote down a "soft" Brexit and we can truly see how many people actually wanted a hard Brexit.

I'm not saying we (or parliament) would ever be allowed that vote, but IMHO it would be the best way to take the decision.

[Sir Tigger KC]

What is also worth considering is the very high turnout amongst the young in this GE, which did have a significant effect on the result.

The GE has demonstrated that the young vote does have some sway in the uk and this can only increase youth voter engagement going forward.

Yes, political parties will have to offer the kids sweeties!   

[Viral_Jim]

Yes, political parties will have to offer the kids sweeties!   

Well, it's been working on the old scrotes for years 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Yes, political parties will have to offer the kids sweeties!   

Well, it's been working on the old scrotes for years 

Yes, but this time they took the Wurther's Originals away!