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[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

And that is exactly why we have £1.5 trillion in debt. So the answer is either to stop the selfish and the stupid from voting, or just get on with TB,s mass cull. 
Btw, Ive been barely living on a day to day basis for the last 9 years, with no prospect of things improving so I don't buy that excuse. 

Yes, but you're a martyr, Albs. I've said before, if only we could all be like you. All this talk of stupid voters and mass culls just shows you up for what you are.....clueless. The national debt means nothing to ordinary people, it never has. With children to feed and homes to heat, there are far more pressing matters.
The tories have just found out what happens when you are out of touch with the people, and I would suggest that's what you are.

I'm not playing the martyr. Theres nothing a despise more than self pitying whingers ,especially if they have a sense of entitlement. If you want to do well in life, work hard at school and work even harder after you leave school. If you don't do that its your fault, no-one elses, and your entitled to fresh air and nothing else. If you cant afford to feed kids, don't fackin have them.
I arsed about at school the whole time I was there. Thats my fault. Why should I be entitled to have as much as people who had more sense and therefore made a better life for themselves ? Common sense tells me I don't, but theres a lot of people who for some reason think they are entitled to just that.
Elections now mostly centre around keeping these people happy unfortunately.
The mass cull reference was a joke, obviously, but I do believe that people who live on benefits, long term,  shouldn't have a vote.
The yanks say "no taxation without representation". Imo, it should also apply in reverse.
More people voted for the Tories than all the other parties in Great Britain put together, so there must be a a hell of a lot of people out of touch.

[Doctor Gollum]

Cannot argue with any of that

[STEMO]

And that is exactly why we have £1.5 trillion in debt. So the answer is either to stop the selfish and the stupid from voting, or just get on with TB,s mass cull. 
Btw, Ive been barely living on a day to day basis for the last 9 years, with no prospect of things improving so I don't buy that excuse. 

Yes, but you're a martyr, Albs. I've said before, if only we could all be like you. All this talk of stupid voters and mass culls just shows you up for what you are.....clueless. The national debt means nothing to ordinary people, it never has. With children to feed and homes to heat, there are far more pressing matters.
The tories have just found out what happens when you are out of touch with the people, and I would suggest that's what you are.

I'm not playing the martyr. Theres nothing a despise more than self pitying whingers ,especially if they have a sense of entitlement. If you want to do well in life, work hard at school and work even harder after you leave school. If you don't do that its your fault, no-one elses, and your entitled to fresh air and nothing else. If you cant afford to feed kids, don't fackin have them.
I arsed about at school the whole time I was there. Thats my fault. Why should I be entitled to have as much as people who had more sense and therefore made a better life for themselves ? Common sense tells me I don't, but theres a lot of people who for some reason think they are entitled to just that.
Elections now mostly centre around keeping these people happy unfortunately.
The mass cull reference was a joke, obviously, but I do believe that people who live on benefits, long term,  shouldn't have a vote.
The yanks say "no taxation without representation". Imo, it should also apply in reverse.
More people voted for the Tories than all the other parties in Great Britain put together, so there must be a a hell of a lot of people out of touch.

That's all very well, Albs, but a sizeable chunk of people who vote disagree wholeheartedly with the whole of that statement, and made that plain enough at the ballot box. If this Tory government makes a fist of it, with or without the DUP, then they will have to rein back on typical conservative policies, and I think that's for the good.
If labour had been the largest party without a minority, they'd have had to take on board a softer approach and that, too, would have been good.

We live with what we have, not what we'd like to have, and I'm happy that the conservatives won but without the mandate to be nasty.

[omegod]

Looks like Sinn Fein are taking their seats in parliament, that's a turn up for the books ! 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Looks like Sinn Fein are taking their seats in parliament, that's a turn up for the books !

If true very interesting.

[STEMO]

Looks like Sinn Fein are taking their seats in parliament, that's a turn up for the books !

Hadn't heard that. No doubt to nullify the majority gained by the conservatives with the DUP. That is not good news, I was kind of hoping for a truce when all the rhetoric died down, can't see that happening now.
If Sinn Fein align themselves against the DUP, then we really do have a hung parliament.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Looks like Sinn Fein are taking their seats in parliament, that's a turn up for the books !

Hadn't heard that. No doubt to nullify the majority gained by the conservatives with the DUP. That is not good news, I was kind of hoping for a truce when all the rhetoric died down, can't see that happening now.
If Sinn Fein align themselves against the DUP, then we really do have a hung parliament.

They'll be tears before bedtime.

[STEMO]

Just had a quick Google. It appears that they will take their seats only to vote against the queens speech, and only if Corbyn will grant them a referendum on a United Ireland.
I have no thoughts on this until I have taken my headache pills. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Just had a quick Google. It appears that they will take their seats only to vote against the queens speech, and only if Corbyn will grant them a referendum on a United Ireland.
I have no thoughts on this until I have taken my headache pills. 

I think they are saying "we can if we want to"

A warning shot of sorts.

[STEMO]

Just had a quick Google. It appears that they will take their seats only to vote against the queens speech, and only if Corbyn will grant them a referendum on a United Ireland.
I have no thoughts on this until I have taken my headache pills. 

I think they are saying "we can if we want to"

A warning shot of sorts.

Let's face it, it was never going to work, was it? Surely people didn't expect Sinn Fein to just sit back and accept the DUP cosying up to the government while power sharing talks in NI were ongoing. How can the government be seen to be neutral? Chaos, utter chaos, and such a shame.
John Major thinks the conservatives should try and govern without the DUP. They (DUP) are opposed to almost every labour policy and think JC is the devil reincarnate. They are hardly likely to vote against the government and trigger a vote of no confidence, thus potentially allowing labour  to win the ensuing election.
It's a shitstorm and, while all of this is going on, how can we have any meaningful brexit negotiations?

[Kevin Wood]

Yep, I had a feeling that Westminster siding with the DUP would not be as simple a solution to May's dilemma as she presented.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Just had a quick Google. It appears that they will take their seats only to vote against the queens speech, and only if Corbyn will grant them a referendum on a United Ireland.
I have no thoughts on this until I have taken my headache pills. 

I think they are saying "we can if we want to"

A warning shot of sorts.

Let's face it, it was never going to work, was it? Surely people didn't expect Sinn Fein to just sit back and accept the DUP cosying up to the government while power sharing talks in NI were ongoing. How can the government be seen to be neutral? Chaos, utter chaos, and such a shame.
John Major thinks the conservatives should try and govern without the DUP. They (DUP) are opposed to almost every labour policy and think JC is the devil reincarnate. They are hardly likely to vote against the government and trigger a vote of no confidence, thus potentially allowing labour  to win the ensuing election.
It's a shitstorm and, while all of this is going on, how can we have any meaningful brexit negotiations?

Yes. I broadly agree. A total cluster f*ck by Cameron and May.

As you rightly say, SF and the DUP are never going to be 'bezzie mates', are they.

[Kevin Wood]

So, to summarise, Camoron rogered our relationship with Europe to cling on to power, and May is looking set to destabilise Northern Ireland in an attempt to do the same.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

So, to summarise, Camoron rogered our relationship with Europe to cling on to power, and May is looking set to destabilise Northern Ireland in an attempt to do the same.

Sounds about right.

[Viral_Jim]

It looks like Sinn Fein aren't actually taking their seats after all, that's just something the S*n wrote. What they are doing is flying to Westminster, taking up their parliamentary offices, claiming expenses and doubtless making themselves visible. I think the Americans term it parking tanks on the lawn. I suppose

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/general-election/sinn-fein-say-they-will-not-take-up-westminster-seats-1-4474095

It is notable that one of the things the DUP are supposedly asking for is for Sinn Fein's American Irish funding stream curtailed. I bet that went down well