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[STEMO]

From that article:

The Sun reported the party have not ruled out taking their seats for the first time in order to vote through a Labour Queen’s Speech if Jeremy Corbyn offered them a referendum on unifying Ireland

Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/general-election/sinn-fein-say-they-will-not-take-up-westminster-seats-1-4474095

[tunnie]

Looking back, I don't think DC should have quit. Yes he went for the remain side, but at the end of the day he is elected to do what we say? (queue comments here  )

So he should have just taken it on the chin. Stated that you, the public, chose this route and I will do my best for the country and got on with the job.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

In order to take a seat in Parliament you need to swear an oath of allegiance to the crown. Sinn Fein have stated many times that they will never do this, and Gerry Adams reaffirmed this last week.
If they were to swear the oath of allegiance, theres a pretty good chance they wouldn't live long enough to go back to take part in any of the voting.
They have been claiming all he expenses they can get for years by pulling this scam with their offices. Its nothing new. 

[STEMO]

In order to take a seat in Parliament you need to swear an oath of allegiance to the crown. Sinn Fein have stated many times that they will never do this, and Gerry Adams reaffirmed this last week.
If they were to swear the oath of allegiance, theres a pretty good chance they wouldn't live long enough to go back to take part in any of the voting.
They have been claiming all he expenses they can get for years by pulling this scam with their offices. Its nothing new. 

Aha! Bluff and bluster then. Thank god.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

If they had a referendum on a United Ireland, they would lose it - again, and they know it. This would wound their credibility, so I don't see why they would want one until such time as they think they have a decent chance of winning it. 
They may be evil incarnate, but they aren't stupid. Adams in particular is a pretty shrewd operator.

[Doctor Gollum]

However pissed they might be at the coalition, they can say nothing... as one of their more articulate members said yesterday, Sinn Fein have practically written the book on dodgy deals to get their own way. Now that they're respectable (sic) public officers, they have to accept it or be branded untrustworthy hypocrites

[TheBoy]

The last survey I saw where people were asked how they would vote again if there was a new referendum tomorrow, over 60% who said they would vote, would vote to leave. The most common reason for changing their mind from originally playing safe and voting remain, due to project fear. As that didn't happen they would now vote to leave.

Strange, as surveys I've seen are about 65% now in favour of remaining. Anecdotal evidence of brexit voters I've spoken to shows a fair proportion now having a change of mind that the reality of the cost, both to country and personally, are starting to ring true.

[Doctor Gollum]

A song for the moment

Although this... Is perhaps more appropriate...?

[Mister Rog]

Be clear and not complacent. If there was a general election today, Corbyn would be in No10 very soon. Like it or hate it, if you dispute this, then you live in cuckoo land. I don't agree with Corbyn or his brand of socialism, but I am in no doubt about this. He would win the social media and popular vote. Theresa May comes across as detached, unconnected, and uncaring. I still think that she would be better for the country as a whole, but I am not the electorate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40394095

[Sir Tigger KC]

Agreed. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Apologies, but I need to call bullshit...

Afterall, elections are NOT decided on Facebook/Twitter etc, but at the Ballot box... Regardless of what the BBC agenda police et al would wish you to believe

[Sir Tigger KC]

Apologies, but I need to call bullshit...

Afterall, elections are NOT decided on Facebook/Twitter etc, but at the Ballot box... Regardless of what the BBC agenda police et al would wish you to believe

No but peoples opinions are increasingly being influenced by what they see and read on Facebook/Twitter etc before they head to the ballot box. 

Like it or not, it's where the future battles for peoples votes will be played out and the Corbynistas/Momentum/AnotherAngryVoice etc are streets ahead of the rest in promoting their agenda on social media. 

And I don't believe it's bullshit to say that if May's government falls, then JC will be our next PM! 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Reports of possible large scale electoral fraud last time are worrying. An online campaign aimed at universities made students very aware that they could easily cast their vote  twice, once at Uni and then again at home. It isn't clear how much affect this had, but the useless electoral commission has been asked to investigate the matter. I wont hold my breath though.
It took them donkeys years to do anything about the peoples republic of Tower Hamlets. Despite the fact that the world and his uncle knew there was large scale electoral fraud going on there, and elsewhere.
Tories, Labour and Libdems completely ignoring electoral spending limits was a similar story.
Labour won quite a few of their seats with very small majorities. Many Labour candidates used the sales tactic "don't worry, Corbyn will never become PM, but if you vote for me I will be a good old fashioned Labour MP for my constituents."
This gives hope that he wouldn't make it, but on the other hand, he is becoming a real cult figure. Like a British Che Guevara or something. Its  both bizarre and sickening to watch.
Its understandable, up to a point, with young people, but theres really no excuse for it with grown adults.
If the Tories ever win a thumping majority again they should introduce a law that a person cant vote until they have paid a minimum of 5 consecutive years of income tax. That would go a long way towards solving this kind of problem.

[STEMO]

Reports of possible large scale electoral fraud last time are worrying. An online campaign aimed at universities made students very aware that they could easily cast their vote  twice, once at Uni and then again at home. It isn't clear how much affect this had, but the useless electoral commission has been asked to investigate the matter. I wont hold my breath though.
It took them donkeys years to do anything about the peoples republic of Tower Hamlets. Despite the fact that the world and his uncle knew there was large scale electoral fraud going on there, and elsewhere.
Tories, Labour and Libdems completely ignoring electoral spending limits was a similar story.
Labour won quite a few of their seats with very small majorities. Many Labour candidates used the sales tactic "don't worry, Corbyn will never become PM, but if you vote for me I will be a good old fashioned Labour MP for my constituents."
This gives hope that he wouldn't make it, but on the other hand, he is becoming a real cult figure. Like a British Che Guevara or something. Its  both bizarre and sickening to watch.
Its understandable, up to a point, with young people, but theres really no excuse for it with grown adults.
If the Tories ever win a thumping majority again they should introduce a law that a person cant vote until they have paid a minimum of 5 consecutive years of income tax. That would go a long way towards solving this kind of problem.

Once again.....

[Sir Tigger KC]

If the Tories ever win a thumping majority again they should introduce a law that a person cant vote until they have paid a minimum of 5 consecutive years of income tax. That would go a long way towards solving this kind of problem.

While we're at it lets take the vote away from women and those who don't own property.  In fact lets disenfranchise about 80% of the population and only let white indigenous property owning males over the age of 40 vote.  Or we could invent a time machine and turn the clock back to 1817?