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[Lazydocker]

First head to roll

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40362317
 

Trial by media. A bloody disgrace (not that I'm sticking up for this weasel, he's civil service, thus is useless, thus needs sacking)

Yes, and there will be a lot more of that until the authorities, including the Government get to grips with this whole disgraceful saga

Accidents happen. Always will.

Yes, its sad when (some) people die.

My beef over this is the belief that the authorities should take care of them, because they felt they were above being insured. And that also gave them the right to riot.


The only disgrace has been the (mainstream, popularist, rage) media.  I note the Mosque attack, and the Belgium attack were barely covered because it misfits an agenda, yet Manchester (because its now home to the BBC) and London (because all news outlets are universally just for London people, and definitely fits in with the David/Goliath trailer trash viewers) have been nearly non stop for a month.

Didn't report a policeman being attacked by a Jihadist the same day is the Finsbury park attack, the van driver killed by "asylum seekers" in Calais last week and have been reporting recently how migrants are really scared about Brexit and are going home. Completely failed to mention today that the population has increased by over half a million in the last 12 months.
A national disgrace which needs shutting down.

That's a bit Daily Fail TBF... He was killed because he drove into the back of a stationary lorry

(Admittedly, the lorry was stationary because of a makeshift road block)

[Sir Tigger KC]

Don't think they mentioned the despicable "Day of Hissy Fit" march either.

FTFY 

[BazaJT]

It seems that they've pinned the cause of the fire to a faulty fridge freezer and have sent warning to manufacturer of said appliance so that presumably they can make checks on similar goods.

[biggriffin]

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/kensington-resident-tells-shocked-radio-host-if-grenfell-families-moved-in-id-leave-a3572066.html.

The looney lefties are running the nut house.

[STEMO]

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/kensington-resident-tells-shocked-radio-host-if-grenfell-families-moved-in-id-leave-a3572066.html.

The looney lefties are running the nut house.

The looney lefties? What point are you making?

[Sir Tigger KC]

I think you'll find that these flats that are being made available were always going to be social housing and the completion of these flats has been speeded up due to the circumstances of Grenfell.  It's the case that developers have to earmark a certain percentage of a development (20%?) for social housing due to planning laws. 

Otherwise I can't see any developer selling 60 odd flats in Kensington for thousands rather than millions, whatever the circumstances.   

[tunnie]

Also worth mentioning shared ownership, is also classed as social housing. Nothing to stop landlords in any flat leasing them to the council, which means safe rent but tad lower than market value.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'd imagine that there will be stiff penalties to discourage sub-letting in the tenancy agreements of these flats....     

[biggriffin]

so you pay a large amount for your new property, as a home/investment,  pay a huge amount for council tax, service charges etc, in a desirable address, then they install, persons in the same property for free, pay less for everything.? is it me.

other way to put it is your work mate doing the same job, gets paid more than you, and your ok with that! I don't think so

[Lazydocker]

I think you'll find that these flats that are being made available were always going to be social housing and the completion of these flats has been speeded up due to the circumstances of Grenfell.  It's the case that developers have to earmark a certain percentage of a development (20%?) for social housing due to planning laws. 

Otherwise I can't see any developer selling 60 odd flats in Kensington for thousands rather than millions, whatever the circumstances.   

Slightly wrong... They were to be "Affordable Housing", not Social Housing. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

I think you'll find that these flats that are being made available were always going to be social housing and the completion of these flats has been speeded up due to the circumstances of Grenfell.  It's the case that developers have to earmark a certain percentage of a development (20%?) for social housing due to planning laws. 

Otherwise I can't see any developer selling 60 odd flats in Kensington for thousands rather than millions, whatever the circumstances.   

Slightly wrong... They were to be "Affordable Housing", not Social Housing. 

We've probably read different accounts of the situation, but whichever is correct these flats were certainly 'affordable' for the City of London Corporation! 

[Lizzie Zoom]

so you pay a large amount for your new property, as a home/investment,  pay a huge amount for council tax, service charges etc, in a desirable address, then they install, persons in the same property for free, pay less for everything.? is it me.

other way to put it is your work mate doing the same job, gets paid more than you, and your ok with that! I don't think so

But the residents of that rich borough who are wealthy, yes, pay a lot for purchasing their property, then for everything afterwards.  However, they have chosen to live there although they could live outside London, and more importantly can sell their property for a massive amount of money with a great profit involved on top of what they originally paid for it.

The residents of Glenville Tower, once rehoused, will never own their own property, unless they win the lottery, and many of them live there as they are employed in service industries to give the rich of the borough what they want, when they want it. That is capitalism for you, and if the "looney lefties" as you put it, in other words Socialists, had their way things would be very different; the rich would have to share their wealth

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I no longer call them the loonie left. The loonies have been replaced by the fascist left. Anyone who dares not to completely agree with them gets the full force of their hatred and denigration from every possible angle.
Anyway - the Libdems are now calling on the Govt to declare a civil emergency ! The whole thing is about proving that one party cares more than the others, and deplying any ludicrous tactic to try and use the situation to pile shame on the Govt. even though it probably had little or nothing to do with them.
Politicians on the left, by politicising every recent tragedy, while the corpses were still warm, have shown them selves to be beneath contempt.

[Doctor Gollum]

so you pay a large amount for your new property, as a home/investment,  pay a huge amount for council tax, service charges etc, in a desirable address, then they install, persons in the same property for free, pay less for everything.? is it me.

other way to put it is your work mate doing the same job, gets paid more than you, and your ok with that! I don't think so

But the residents of that rich borough who are wealthy, yes, pay a lot for purchasing their property, then for everything afterwards.  However, they have chosen to live there although they could live outside London, and more importantly can sell their property for a massive amount of money with a great profit involved on top of what they originally paid for it.

The residents of Glenville Tower, once rehoused, will never own their own property, unless they win the lottery, and many of them live there as they are employed in service industries to give the rich of the borough what they want, when they want it. That is capitalism for you, and if the "looney lefties" as you put it, in other words Socialists, had their way things would be very different; the rich would have to share their wealth

Actually they wouldn't... Some people are more equal than others and don't you forget it.

That's to say, those who contribute nothing, be it cash or labour get nothing but bread, water and a roof.

People who contribute get the same with milk and butter.

People who manage get the same plus meat.

The people who own receive the world.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

You missed out "should", between labour and get. 
The fact that we live in a semi socialist state, means that this is not the case. If this Govt. collapses, we may move to a fully fledged Marxist state almost overnight.
We are living in dangerous times.