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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #45 on: 20 June 2017, 21:13:14 »

Sorry, to clarify, my Omegas (and Zafira) have always been cold at the vents.  Its just the fans seem to struggle to really move large quantities of air, despite the excessive noise the bloody fans create ;D
Ah..I see. Well, it's cold enough in the drivers seat, I don't care about the rest of the car :)
I also find that recirc keeps it nice and cool without the fans having to work too hard. No 2 does the job once it's down to temp.
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #46 on: 20 June 2017, 21:15:12 »

Yeah that's how mine is. Cold at the vents. Just not the coldest ever.
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #47 on: 20 June 2017, 21:20:46 »

Yeah that's how mine is. Cold at the vents. Just not the coldest ever.
Try pulling out pollen filter (temporarily, seeing as you have the inferior FL model), see if it improves.
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #48 on: 20 June 2017, 21:22:12 »

Sorry, to clarify, my Omegas (and Zafira) have always been cold at the vents.  Its just the fans seem to struggle to really move large quantities of air, despite the excessive noise the bloody fans create ;D
Ah..I see. Well, it's cold enough in the drivers seat, I don't care about the rest of the car :)
I also find that recirc keeps it nice and cool without the fans having to work too hard. No 2 does the job once it's down to temp.
Both the Omega and Zafira have pretty crappy rear vents, so cooling the whole car takes longer than perhaps it should.
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #49 on: 20 June 2017, 21:24:37 »

I also find that recirc keeps it nice and cool without the fans having to work too hard.
Many climate systems do this automatically if you have the temp down as low as it will go.  It does allow better cooling (as the air it draws in has already been chilled once), but stops fresh air coming in, which can lead to drowsiness if used for longer periods.
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #50 on: 20 June 2017, 23:28:56 »

Yeah that's how mine is. Cold at the vents. Just not the coldest ever.
Try pulling out pollen filter (temporarily, seeing as you have the inferior FL model), see if it improves.

We will agree to disagree. The FL looks more poised 😂
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #51 on: 20 June 2017, 23:30:18 »

Re the AC. Yeah I will try that tb cheers 👍
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #52 on: 21 June 2017, 17:16:42 »

Yeah that's how mine is. Cold at the vents. Just not the coldest ever.
Try pulling out pollen filter (temporarily, seeing as you have the inferior FL model), see if it improves.

We will agree to disagree. The FL looks like I really wanted an Astra-G instead 😂
Fixed.
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #53 on: 21 June 2017, 17:34:56 »

I was never happy with the aircon on my 2.2 .
Sunny weather and say an outside temp of 25C inside set at 19/20C it used to make the fan run on full chat all the time. Nothing wrong with the refrigerant and pollen filter was new.....
I even asked the AC guy if he could use a different refrigerant to make it colder....he wasn't keen as he suggested all that might happen is that it would freeze up and get even worse air flow....so it was left.....

Now the Ford.....even in these temps....left parked up in the sun....jump in and climate goes into full chat mode, but after 10mins or so the fans start to slow down  :y Much better  :)
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #54 on: 21 June 2017, 17:40:40 »

I even asked the AC guy if he could use a different refrigerant to make it colder....he wasn't keen as he suggested all that might happen is that it would freeze up and get even worse air flow....so it was left.....
I've had Omega's start to freeze up the windscreen before (and other cars as well).
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #55 on: 22 June 2017, 07:59:33 »

I was never happy with the aircon on my 2.2 .
Sunny weather and say an outside temp of 25C inside set at 19/20C it used to make the fan run on full chat all the time. Nothing wrong with the refrigerant and pollen filter was new.....
I even asked the AC guy if he could use a different refrigerant to make it colder....he wasn't keen as he suggested all that might happen is that it would freeze up and get even worse air flow....so it was left.....

Now the Ford.....even in these temps....left parked up in the sun....jump in and climate goes into full chat mode, but after 10mins or so the fans start to slow down  :y Much better  :)

Irrelevant on an aircon setup.

To make it colder you need to change the expansion valve  :y

Our facelift 2.5 had superb aircon, it often even created ice on the glass above the screen vents.
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #56 on: 22 June 2017, 08:47:19 »

A minor detail of note...

The climate control system contains several parts which all need to function correctly to give the best results...

Perfect air-conditioning may well leave a frost on the glass, but if the air distribution system is a compromised design, the overall ability of the climate control to deliver reasonable volumes of air regardless of temperature is somewhat reduced.

Working Aircon and working climate control are not quite the same thing ;)
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #57 on: 22 June 2017, 17:32:32 »

So, this where I struggle to understand....

If the aircon or climate is managing to frost the windscreen, it suggests to me the air coming from the vents must be below 0c  :-\
A temp inside the vents of about 5c is norm I would have thought  :-\
Also if climate why is it venting the air onto windscreen, unless you have it on manual and selected the windscreen vents....climate on my cars left on auto have always vented through the dash vents ....
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #58 on: 22 June 2017, 17:48:35 »

So, this where I struggle to understand....

If the aircon or climate is managing to frost the windscreen, it suggests to me the air coming from the vents must be below 0c  :-\
A temp inside the vents of about 5c is norm I would have thought  :-\
Also if climate why is it venting the air onto windscreen, unless you have it on manual and selected the windscreen vents....climate on my cars left on auto have always vented through the dash vents ....
Certainly on the Omega, it vents where it needs to, and when stable, out of all outlets.

I think this might be part of Omega's issue, too many outlets for a small fan...
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Re: Best price for air conditioning re-gas?
« Reply #59 on: 23 June 2017, 08:07:17 »

I regassed mine the other day, a hot day leaning over the hot hot radiator squeezing the trigger on the regulator was a hard lesson but the system is working again.

after cash back for recycling the bottle ot the same price as fastfit.

It will never be as cold as my c class was, I had frost blowing out of the cabin vents
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