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Evacuation
« on: 24 June 2017, 10:44:30 »
Camden Council last night ordered the evacuation of 4 tower blocks on fire safety concerns, allegedly at very short notice and have effectively rendered (reportedly) 4000 people homeless.  :o

Have they done the right thing or is it an over reaction?  :-\
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #1 on: 24 June 2017, 10:58:23 »
Over reaction , IMO

Let the tenants stay put, but have 24/7 'fire wardens' patrolling as they are doing anyway and get the cladding changed asap.
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #2 on: 24 June 2017, 11:40:07 »
Quote from: TD on 24 June 2017, 10:58:23
Over reaction , IMO


I'd agree, but also symptomatic of the litigious and "trial by media" society in which we live. Evacuating the blocks puts the council beyond reproach regarding a similar fire. Anything less and they will be hauled over the coals for "not doing more".
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #3 on: 24 June 2017, 12:21:08 »
Yep, smacks of an @rse covering exercise to me. If I were living there I think I'd be telling them I'm staying put, until they have somewhere for me to go, at any rate.
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #4 on: 24 June 2017, 13:12:20 »
i have a horrible suspicion that this is the tip of the iceberg. i.e. we will see loads more evacuations across the country as those responsible take the soft option. Who wouldn't ?
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #5 on: 24 June 2017, 15:03:39 »
When as an official of one of these councils you could be faced with manslaughter charges, as now are those involved in Grenville, then it makes perfect sense.

In addition, if you know now as a tenant that the cladding on your block, plus other safety issues, is the same as with the ill fated tower block, wouldn't you want to be out and safe with your family?  It is perfectly understandable and natural. ;)
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #6 on: 24 June 2017, 15:10:57 »
As far as I can make out no-one was forced to leave,they were advised to do so.Yes it's an over reaction as long as nothing goes wrong,but if they do nothing and something does go wrong what then?It's a case of damned if you do,damned if you don't.
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #7 on: 24 June 2017, 18:45:17 »
If it is an arse covering exercise I assume every fridge freezer will be on the way to landfill asap,but I doubt they will be.
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #8 on: 24 June 2017, 20:39:35 »
See, I'm right, the UK is made up of stupid people.

Words fail.
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #9 on: 24 June 2017, 20:43:37 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 24 June 2017, 20:39:35
See, I'm right, the UK is made up of run by stupid people.

Words fail.


Fixed that for you.
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #10 on: 24 June 2017, 20:47:35 »
Quote from: Nick W on 24 June 2017, 20:43:37
Quote from: TheBoy on 24 June 2017, 20:39:35
See, I'm right, the UK is made up of run by stupid people.

Words fail.


Fixed that for you.
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #11 on: 24 June 2017, 21:58:01 »
Over reaction. They had 24 hour wardens in the buildings to spot any problems as soon as they started. Keeping them their until the cladding was ripped off (which shouldn't take that long) seems sensible.
If the Grenfell residents hadn't been told to remain in their flats in during a fire, most of them would almost certainly be alive now.
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #12 on: 24 June 2017, 22:07:21 »
Quote from: Migv6 on 24 June 2017, 21:58:01
Over reaction. They had 24 hour wardens in the buildings to spot any problems as soon as they started. Keeping them their until the cladding was ripped off (which shouldn't take that long) seems sensible.
If the Grenfell residents hadn't been told to remain in their flats in during a fire, most of them would almost certainly be alive now.
Easy to say that now...

At the time it was presumed, not unreasonably imho, that the flats were self-contained pockets of safety and staying in them should have kept people safe and accounted for as long as necessary to clear the building and tackle the fire in a safe and effective manner.

The reality, with hindsight, proved tragically different and whilst the brunt of the investigation seems focused on the cladding rather than how the core of the building burned so vigorously. The interior should have been  broadly unaffected by the fire within the cladding :-\
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #13 on: 25 June 2017, 18:36:45 »
Now 60 tower blocks have been checked out for fire safety, 100% of them failed the inspections! :o :o
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Re: Evacuation
« Reply #14 on: 25 June 2017, 18:38:20 »
Quote from: Lizzie Zoom on 25 June 2017, 18:36:45
Now 60 tower blocks have been checked out for fire safety, 100% of them failed the inspections! :o :o
Have we started on schools, hospitals, libraries yet?  ::)
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