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[Lizzie Zoom]

This would be a pointless exercise as the age of the internal combustion engine for cars is coming to an end.  In 25 years time all new cars will be electric.

In the meantime why waste money on fitting technology to a car to restrict speed (which as a licence holder you have "agreed to" legally as a condition of holding a licence) when the cars so fitted are soon to be obsolete?  Electric cars will no doubt be driverless, so big brother will control everything the car does.

Finally, as Migv6 says, this is still a free country and so you should be free to choose if you are going to speed or not.  Or do we want a nanny state to tell us what to do now rather than in the future?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

We are also free to take our cars to the Isle of Man, Germany, or anywhere else where there isn't a speed limit on certain roads.
And that's before you consider private roads, test tracks and every race track in the country which hold track days.
Then theres the moral as opposed to the legal question. Is there any good reason why you shouldn't do whatever speed you want to on a a long clear stretch of motorway at say, 5am in the morning ?
The "solutions" being suggested don't amount to a nanny state, they amount to a police state.

[Kevin Wood]

While we're at it, why don't we ban knives, and all wear government-mandated chastity belts, to be released only on production of evidence that the lady of your intentions is not your sister? (we'll have to come up with some other criteria to cover the fens, obviously).

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Watching traffic cops on CH5, trying to catch a golf that's doing 150 on the motorway and up to 80-90 round the streets of Bradford. Futile.
The fastest any car can legally travel in this country is 70mph, apart from overtaking for a short distance and, no doubt, a few other scenarios. Why can't cars sold in this country be limited to, say, 100mph? What use to an every day driver is 150mph?
Police cars, of course, would not be limited.

Boll*cks to that. That is the work of the 'nanny state' where nanny knows best. It is also the thin end of the wedge.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

We are also free to take our cars to the Isle of Man, Germany, or anywhere else where there isn't a speed limit on certain roads.
And that's before you consider private roads, test tracks and every race track in the country which hold track days.
Then theres the moral as opposed to the legal question. Is there any good reason why you shouldn't do whatever speed you want to on a a long clear stretch of motorway at say, 5am in the morning ?
The "solutions" being suggested don't amount to a nanny state, they amount to a police state.
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This is the second time today I have agreed with Albitz. Highly unusual.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

While we're at it, why don't we ban knives, and all wear government-mandated chastity belts, to be released only on production of evidence that the lady of your intentions is not your sister? (we'll have to come up with some other criteria to cover the fens, obviously).

Yes......hand over total control and responsibility to 'the state' because whatever they do they do it for our own good.

[zirk]

Driver-less cars is the answer, that way when you get caught doing 150mph on the Motorway......     you respond, "wasn't me Officer, wasnt even looking out the window, was reading my Paper".

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Reading through the handbook my car has something called an Event Data Recorder or EDR.

I presume this to be similar to the black box on a plane.

Not happy with this.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The EDR has data which shows....



Whether or not the driver and passenger seat belts were buckled.

How far the accelerator was being pressed by the driver.

How fast the car was travelling.


Jaguar say that if the police ask for the data they will provide it.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

While we're at it, why don't we ban knives, and all wear government-mandated chastity belts, to be released only on production of evidence that the lady of your intentions is not your sister? (we'll have to come up with some other criteria to cover the fens, obviously).

Yes......hand over total control and responsibility to 'the state' because whatever they do they do it for our own good.

This is what is known as Socialism. Deep down, you aren't one because you believe in freedom of the individual.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

While we're at it, why don't we ban knives, and all wear government-mandated chastity belts, to be released only on production of evidence that the lady of your intentions is not your sister? (we'll have to come up with some other criteria to cover the fens, obviously).

Yes......hand over total control and responsibility to 'the state' because whatever they do they do it for our own good.

This is what is known as Socialism. Deep down, you aren't one because you believe in freedom of the individual.

I believe socialism in the form of helping people in need and not allowing the powerful to take physical and financial advantage of the weak. Socialism in this form is a force for good. 

I certainly do not believe in a totalitarian state of any description. Freedom to make our own choices is paramount.

[Doctor Gollum]

The EDR has data which shows....



Whether or not the driver and passenger seat belts were buckled.

How far the accelerator was being pressed by the driver.

How fast the car was travelling.


Jaguar say that if the police ask for the data they will provide it.

Would you have purchased it with that knowledge?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The EDR has data which shows....



Whether or not the driver and passenger seat belts were buckled.

How far the accelerator was being pressed by the driver.

How fast the car was travelling.


Jaguar say that if the police ask for the data they will provide it.

Would you have purchased it with that knowledge?

Probably not, Al. But I imagine there is a similar device fitted to every recently manufactured Audi, BMW, Merc.....etc...etc.

[STEMO]

The EDR has data which shows....



Whether or not the driver and passenger seat belts were buckled.

How far the accelerator was being pressed by the driver.

How fast the car was travelling.


Jaguar say that if the police ask for the data they will provide it.

Would you have purchased it with that knowledge?

Probably not, Al. But I imagine there is a similar device fitted to every recently manufactured Audi, BMW, Merc.....etc...etc.

There is a section on something similar in the back of the wife's Renault handbook.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The EDR has data which shows....



Whether or not the driver and passenger seat belts were buckled.

How far the accelerator was being pressed by the driver.

How fast the car was travelling.


Jaguar say that if the police ask for the data they will provide it.

Would you have purchased it with that knowledge?

Probably not, Al. But I imagine there is a similar device fitted to every recently manufactured Audi, BMW, Merc.....etc...etc.

There is a section on something similar in the back of the wife's Renault handbook.

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Big brother is watching us all.